1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Help with rubbing, have toytec lift

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by jdhaas3, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. jdhaas3

    jdhaas3 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Member:
    #56901
    Messages:
    346
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jimmy
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Jeep Rubicon
    Durango front bumper, Warn Dual Force Powerplant HP winch with synthetic line, 3.5 AE lift, regeared to 4.88, ARB diff cover
    I have a 2011 double cab, long bed 4x4, trd sport. I just recently put a toytec ultimate lift kit on it and BFG KM2's 285/75/16. I am having a little bit of rubbing on the inner back side of the tire and I believe it is rubbing the lower control arm. I was able to scrape a bit of debris off of there and I am pretty sure its tire residue. It isnt major rubbing, just only while I am turning at the max turn radius and usually going up a hill or something. What is the best way to correct this?

    [​IMG]

    I spoke with toytec about the lift and they told me to measure from the center of the hub to the top of the fender and around 23 inches is supposed to be 3 inches of lift. I am sitting right around 24 inches.
     
  2. mxnborder

    mxnborder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Member:
    #38749
    Messages:
    1,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Santa Barbara
    Vehicle:
    05 4x4 sport - black on black on black
    DR coilovers AAl 285 kelly safaris lightbar/skidplate need more!
    does the rubbing sound loud? if it is its probably just hitting the plastic wheel well pieces that everyone with 285s has to trim pretty much. I don't think the tire would hit the lower control arm ever unless your backspace is worse than stock rims. . truck looks sick btw!
     
  3. jdhaas3

    jdhaas3 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Member:
    #56901
    Messages:
    346
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jimmy
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Jeep Rubicon
    Durango front bumper, Warn Dual Force Powerplant HP winch with synthetic line, 3.5 AE lift, regeared to 4.88, ARB diff cover
    i dont even know what my backspacing is...i just bought my tires...brought the wheels in and had them put on, that was it. i didnt ask anything about backspacing when i had them put on. thanks for the comment on the truck.
     
  4. mxnborder

    mxnborder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Member:
    #38749
    Messages:
    1,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Santa Barbara
    Vehicle:
    05 4x4 sport - black on black on black
    DR coilovers AAl 285 kelly safaris lightbar/skidplate need more!
    most of the time when you get a lift and larger tires you want a rim that has a backspace of 4.5" or less to keep the tire away from the suspension components , stock is 5.5 i think.

    Have a friend get in your truck and crank the wheel and you can probly see where it is rubbing. . also if you go in reverse and crank it thats usually when it will rub the most so you can check it out.
     
  5. OZ-T

    OZ-T All of those moments....will be lost.....in time

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Member:
    #27584
    Messages:
    21,389
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Peter North
    British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    Mag Grey 09 Trd Sport DCLB 4x4
    OME 885x , OME shocks and Dakars , Wheelers SuperBumps front and rear , 275/70/17 Hankook ATm , OEM bed mat , Weathertech digifit floor liners , Weathertech in-channel vents , headache rack , Leer 100RCC commercial canopy , TRD bedside decals removed , Devil Horns by Andres , HomerTaco Satoshi
    Have you had an alignment done since lifting ?
     
  6. jdhaas3

    jdhaas3 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Member:
    #56901
    Messages:
    346
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jimmy
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Jeep Rubicon
    Durango front bumper, Warn Dual Force Powerplant HP winch with synthetic line, 3.5 AE lift, regeared to 4.88, ARB diff cover
    \

    i will try that later on...who do i talk to about backspacing? does that essentially push the tire furhter out from the truck? sorry for my noob question.

    yes they were able to align it no problem
     
  7. Toy Yoda

    Toy Yoda Go Pro Junkie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    Member:
    #54800
    Messages:
    1,841
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Garrett
    Red Stick
    Vehicle:
    06 DCLB
    Sdidertraxx, ARB deluxe winch bumper, Warn M8000, Westin Tailight guards, 5100's, OME 886's, OME N182's, 2" block, 1.5" aal, Pioneer 4300dvd, stickers out the butt, misc crap
    i would put some spidertraxx wheel spacers, thats what i did to fit 285's with a 3 inch lift and ive got no rubbing whatsoever
     
  8. jdhaas3

    jdhaas3 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Member:
    #56901
    Messages:
    346
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jimmy
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Jeep Rubicon
    Durango front bumper, Warn Dual Force Powerplant HP winch with synthetic line, 3.5 AE lift, regeared to 4.88, ARB diff cover
    1.25 inch? you put them on all 4 correct? sorry for the noob questions once again, new to all of this.
     
  9. Greensystemsgo

    Greensystemsgo Self Proclaimed first gen expert :doh:

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58216
    Messages:
    2,843
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Avondale, AZ
    Vehicle:
    1999 TRD/SR5 4x4
    5100/5125's All pro expedition leafs Eibach coils Light racing uca's 2004 gauge cluster All stainless brake lines 1" diff drop kenwood with polks rebuild seat support webbing satoshi grill optima red top
    only NEED to do the front, but can do all 4 to keep even.

    i came in here right away to say spacers and see that that has already been covered.
     
  10. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight East Bound and Down

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Member:
    #8006
    Messages:
    9,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    SE Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    Trail Limo
    Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers w/ 16" 750# King springs, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 MTZ's, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Yakima Rack, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, ARB Heavy Duty air compressor, ARB Rear Locker, Shrockworks Rock Sliders, ARB Front Bumper, Relentless Fab Rear Bumper w/ custom bed protection, WARN M8000
    No. Spacers are not needed it will make the rubbing worse.

    The FJ rims have the perfect offset/backspacing for 285's and a 3 " lift. I am willing to bet you are rubbing a little on the fender flare in the back of the wheel well if there has been no trimming done. It is very minimal but it helps a lot.

    Also at full lock I do very slightly rub my lower control arm when articulated. It will not hurt anything.

    Spacers are a waist of money in your case.
     
  11. jdhaas3

    jdhaas3 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Member:
    #56901
    Messages:
    346
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jimmy
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Jeep Rubicon
    Durango front bumper, Warn Dual Force Powerplant HP winch with synthetic line, 3.5 AE lift, regeared to 4.88, ARB diff cover
    yeah i will just do 4...i am not rubbing the fenders at all now, i guess i will probably be rubbing those after i get these but i can just trim those up

    will this affect my alignment at all?
     
  12. jdhaas3

    jdhaas3 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Member:
    #56901
    Messages:
    346
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jimmy
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Jeep Rubicon
    Durango front bumper, Warn Dual Force Powerplant HP winch with synthetic line, 3.5 AE lift, regeared to 4.88, ARB diff cover
    how would it make it worse...i am mechanically retarded so i have no idea here...the only real rubbing i can notice is the stuff on the lower control arm, i havent trimmed the fender at all.
     
  13. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight East Bound and Down

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Member:
    #8006
    Messages:
    9,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    SE Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    Trail Limo
    Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers w/ 16" 750# King springs, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 MTZ's, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Yakima Rack, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, ARB Heavy Duty air compressor, ARB Rear Locker, Shrockworks Rock Sliders, ARB Front Bumper, Relentless Fab Rear Bumper w/ custom bed protection, WARN M8000
    If you put wheel spacers on there it sets the tire further away from the hub making the the radius of the turn larger. This will make the outside of your tire rub the shit out of your fender flares in front and back. It will also make you rub the body mount.

    get one of these if you plan to get the spacers and keep them on there.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. 97yota4wd

    97yota4wd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    Member:
    #42280
    Messages:
    13,025
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Mesa, AZ
    Vehicle:
    alot of metal, small engine, decent travel.
    caged, camburg long travel, 50t leafpack (soon to be installed) light rack over cab, 5pt harnesses etc

    but hes rubbing on the controll arm not the fenderwell, so in this case spacers would help him. he said he would trim the fender well also if it rubs.

    OP you can also get really small wheel spacers like 1/8 inch, and that should correct the controll arm rubbing issue
     
  15. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight East Bound and Down

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Member:
    #8006
    Messages:
    9,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    SE Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    Trail Limo
    Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers w/ 16" 750# King springs, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 MTZ's, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Yakima Rack, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, ARB Heavy Duty air compressor, ARB Rear Locker, Shrockworks Rock Sliders, ARB Front Bumper, Relentless Fab Rear Bumper w/ custom bed protection, WARN M8000
    Agreed, the 1/8th" spacer may help a little but the spidertrax spacers will make it rub so bad in other places it is just not worth it.
     
  16. Greensystemsgo

    Greensystemsgo Self Proclaimed first gen expert :doh:

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58216
    Messages:
    2,843
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Avondale, AZ
    Vehicle:
    1999 TRD/SR5 4x4
    5100/5125's All pro expedition leafs Eibach coils Light racing uca's 2004 gauge cluster All stainless brake lines 1" diff drop kenwood with polks rebuild seat support webbing satoshi grill optima red top
    for that little though wont he have to cut the lugs? dunno if id do that, such a dilema!
     
  17. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight East Bound and Down

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Member:
    #8006
    Messages:
    9,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    SE Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    Trail Limo
    Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers w/ 16" 750# King springs, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 MTZ's, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Yakima Rack, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, ARB Heavy Duty air compressor, ARB Rear Locker, Shrockworks Rock Sliders, ARB Front Bumper, Relentless Fab Rear Bumper w/ custom bed protection, WARN M8000
    Cut the lugs???
    WTH?

    No!

    :facepalm:
     
  18. Greensystemsgo

    Greensystemsgo Self Proclaimed first gen expert :doh:

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58216
    Messages:
    2,843
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Avondale, AZ
    Vehicle:
    1999 TRD/SR5 4x4
    5100/5125's All pro expedition leafs Eibach coils Light racing uca's 2004 gauge cluster All stainless brake lines 1" diff drop kenwood with polks rebuild seat support webbing satoshi grill optima red top
    i guess i dunno how the spacer works then, i thought the original lugs attached to the spacer, and then the spacer had its own to attach the wheel to?
     
  19. mxnborder

    mxnborder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Member:
    #38749
    Messages:
    1,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Santa Barbara
    Vehicle:
    05 4x4 sport - black on black on black
    DR coilovers AAl 285 kelly safaris lightbar/skidplate need more!
    the tiny spacer just goes in behind the wheel over the lug bolts so there is still enough lug nut holding the wheel on. The larger spacers mount by themselves and have their own lug bolts to mount the wheel on.
     
  20. neoflex

    neoflex Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2010
    Member:
    #36594
    Messages:
    495
    Gender:
    Male
    If your rubbing on the LCA I am guessing it's only at full lock.If that's the case just deal with it and move on. As others said pulling the wheel out could create more rubbing issues. I would rather have my tires rub on smooth metal on the LCA at full lock rather than the fender wells and flare at less than full lock. How often do most of us cut the wheel that hard anyway? If your rubbing the LCA before full lock than maybe consider the spacers. Not real sure where your rubbing so I figured I would just throw in my 2 cents.
     
To Top