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Hey Connecticut, our everything hurts

Discussion in 'North East' started by Jrs13086, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Sep 12, 2016 at 6:23 AM
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    ya I'm gonna have to order one as well cause I really like em. Also after our meet I've come to the realization that I need to get my Windows tinted cause I was the only one that didn't have em tinted. Help me out fellas what percentage do y'all have yours tinted to
     
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  2. Sep 12, 2016 at 6:30 AM
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    LOL. My front are done to match the back as much as possible, so it's about 20%.
     
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  3. Sep 12, 2016 at 8:03 AM
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    FRACK!!!!!!!! My bad @surfandturf , completely forgot to grab the WeatherTech stickers to mail them out today. My bad.

    I'll send it out tomorrow morning and let you know when they're in the mail.
     
  4. Sep 12, 2016 at 9:32 AM
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    I went with 35% on the fronts
     
  5. Sep 12, 2016 at 10:06 AM
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    Ok cool and at 20% have you had any trouble with the boy's pulling you over for it, my buddy a while back maybe like 08-09 he picked up a bad ass EVO that had tints on it when he bought it from a dealer and he got pulled over because of the tints and got a rather large ticket for the tints and his exhaust and it totalled like 750.00
     
  6. Sep 12, 2016 at 10:09 AM
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    Ok cool thanks bud any idea what the darkest legal tint % is?? I heard it was like 20 %
     
  7. Sep 12, 2016 at 11:25 AM
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    Have you guys ever noticed a harder downshift when breaking going down a hill. Like the taco will gear down when I apply the break slightly and when I gas it it will wanna jump when shifting up?
     
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  8. Sep 12, 2016 at 11:31 AM
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    Yessir. Feel it everyday on my way to work since I have to go down a steep hill, and I usually let it coast and then tap the brakes.
     
  9. Sep 12, 2016 at 11:36 AM
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    You feel the engine doing the braking going down?
     
  10. Sep 12, 2016 at 11:37 AM
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    Yup... definitely feels like the engine is braking and/or downshifting. Hope that made sense.
     
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  11. Sep 12, 2016 at 11:48 AM
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    35% is the darkest you can legally go in CT. Since the factory glass is not completely transparent, technically adding 35% film is still illegal but it's light enough where I feel like I won't be hassled since you can still see in.
     
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  12. Sep 12, 2016 at 11:50 AM
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    BTW you probably already know this but a higher percentage means a lighter tint so 20% is darker than 35%. I think the factory glass is around 70-80%
     
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  13. Sep 12, 2016 at 2:48 PM
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    ya that's what I thought as well lower number darker tint
     
  14. Sep 12, 2016 at 7:15 PM
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    These are the best ones that came out. If you boys like any of them take them and use them. My instagram is @dcorbalis so tag me so I can see.

    Again, thanks Matt for hosting!
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    There are some duplicates I just noticed lol.
     
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    They look bad ass dude! Thanks for being the photographer and posting them up @dcorbalis!
     
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    He'll ya they look outstanding excellent job @dcorbalis can't wait for the next one.. So I was thinking we should try and do at least one a month maybe what are yalls thoughts on this
     
  18. Sep 13, 2016 at 2:57 AM
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    We'll have to figure it out. But definitely need to it more than once a year, that's for sure.
     
  19. Sep 13, 2016 at 4:24 AM
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    Just give me a time and place and I'll try and make it work!
     
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    Dayyuuum that one of my truck the second from the top is probably my favourite pic of my truck thanks again @dcorbalis for making my truck look wicked awesome :)
     
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