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HID FAQ

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by Kurdain, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. Jul 23, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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    Rich91710

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    The best way to go is to retrofit projectors into the stock, or stock style housings.

    Not just HID burners, which is what those kits are, but actual projectors.
    They are still technically illegal, but stick with a 4300k burner, 35 watt ballast, and aim them properly and you'll be fine.
    It's the blue/purple (and yellow) lights that are blinding people that are getting tickets. I haven't seen yellow or purple on the 60/10/210 in a year or two.
    Correct. One one design, the bulb is pulled back so it clears a shield which exposes the arc to the full reflector and changes the focal length.
    Another design simply causes the shield to flip out of the way.

    Projectors have a "fence" in front of the reflector, and a solenoid drops the fence.
    The advantage (with projectors) is a much more coherent beam. There is more light in the near field, while not losing light in the distance.

    BTW: Also avoid the projectors sold on eBay. Their patterns are horrible.
    With HID they are worse than stock... with halogens they are terrible.

    Here's my D2S projectors in stock housings:

    [​IMG]


    Projectors are around $300 from theretrofitsource.com
    They have an ongoing group buy.
     
  2. Jul 23, 2013 at 8:45 PM
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  3. Jul 25, 2013 at 5:52 AM
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    Thanks for all the links and advice.

    My original interest in HID was simply because the lights that are there aren't allowing me to adjust them correctly. I have a weird driver's side light that I can't pull out far enough to get it up and out enough to line up with the tape on the wall recommendation for where it's supposed to be.

    I figured if I have to buy new lights, I might as well consider an upgrade.

    So if I understand things correctly, there isn't any HID replacement light setup that I can simply swap out and be legit. It also isn't going to do much for helping me relative to light output (legal limitations considered) and could end up getting me a ticket if they're noticeably brighter than they should be. Right?
     
  4. Jul 25, 2013 at 5:56 AM
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    Legit.... As in legal, no. Not in the united states at least.
     
  5. Jul 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM
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    I wish there was a +like or some such thing for responses that were helpful but that don't really require a response of their own.

    Thanks for the reply. I won't be doing HIDs in my truck. :D
     
  6. Jul 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM
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    You can give the guys that helped you out a + rep!!
     
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  7. Aug 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM
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    The brighter the bulb, the less bulb life you will get. I replaced Silverstars twice a year because of that.
     
  8. Aug 7, 2013 at 9:46 PM
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    +1

    Used to love Silverstars, but I would never drive a vehicle with them unless I had a spare pair in the glove box.
     
  9. Aug 8, 2013 at 6:49 AM
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    I sure would like to improve the lights on my 2003 xtracab 4X4. I'm not interested in doing anything other than improving night vision (nothing cosmetic). The lenses are slightly hazed from the Texas sun and the lights just aren't that good. I can polish the lenses but I'm wondering what is the best way to improve night vision.
    Thanks for any ideas
     
  10. Aug 8, 2013 at 11:05 AM
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    I've seen sites where they polish the lenses with toothpaste, and it works pretty good. The lights, other than putting aftermarket lights behind the grill, I'm not sure what else to help you with. Sorry
     
  11. Aug 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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    Thanks Kenny, I thought there had be some kind of upgrade over the stock headlights, dang! Seems like every lighting enhancement is for the newer trucks ( 2005 and up)
     
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    If you go to "tacoma forum" there are knowledgeable people there too who may be able to help.
     
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    you can put in Hella's or Osram 100w/80w or 100w/90w, that will improve output without going to hid, the bulbs just don't last as long, but they do help with lighting of the night...

    ;)
     
  14. Aug 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM
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    i have a 2006 tacoma trd off road 6cyl 6 speed and i am looking to get a hid kit for my truck. kit is bulb specific and i need to know what the headlight bulb number i need is and the fog light number. thanks!
     
  15. Oct 17, 2013 at 11:48 PM
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    Alright so I bought the Xentec 6000K HID's and put them in the stock housings in my 2011. the bulbs came with a metal guard screwed to the bottom of them and when i put them in with the guard on them only half of my headlight housing had light in it so i took the metal pieces off. Now at night time with my lights on there are spots that are brighter than others. Now I'm guessing it's because I didn't retrofit them, but a friend of mine has the same setup in her 06 and doesnt have the same issue. Has anybody else experienced this?
     
  16. Oct 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM
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    the bulbs came with a metal guard screwed to the bottom of them and when i put them in with the guard on them only half of my headlight housing had light in it so i took the metal pieces off

    I am assuming this was the cut-off or glare shield, you are now most likely blinding everyone coming towards you, regardless of your beam setting. Please put the original lights back in.

    Now at night time with my lights on there are spots that are brighter than others.

    Please see above and further this is why you don't just slap in HID's into non-HID housings, 90% of the time the beam pattern will be crap and even though I am sure you THINK they are brighter, and probably are, the actual usable light shining down the down where you want it is diminished.

    I really wish all these "retro-fit kits", were ticketed appropriately. It used to be against federal law, to the tune of thousands of dollars in tickets, but I haven't looked up the laws since the original article(s) in this thread were gathered. True HID conversions, where most of not all the light is replaced should be DOT cert'd and only then allowed.
     
  17. Oct 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM
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    no i actually don't think they're brighter. maybe in certain areas, but not where i want them to be. I don't understand why the same kit works fine in my friends 06 and is shit in mine though. I want HID's in my truck, but i don't want projectors because I think they make the trucks look bug eyed and I can't stand it. any other suggestions?
     
  18. Oct 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM
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    It is still illegal and some states are very aggressive at ticketing.

    I am rarely seeing purple and yellow headlights now.
    2 years ago they were all over the place.

    I ended up passing a Civic with purple lights on the way to work yesterday.
    Coming up behind him, I could see a bright purple patch on the road in front of him. I could barely see any light reflected off of the car in front of him.

    Wrong. As I passed, the glare in my mirrors was VERY bright.
     
  19. Oct 18, 2013 at 6:20 PM
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    1. xentec is complete crap
    2. Don't run HIDs in stock housings
    3. Tell your friend not to as well
     
  20. Oct 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM
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    Damn it.


    I can't +peR you more than once for this ;)
     
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