HID Fog lights?

bdwsrjoe · Mar 3, 2010

RainDodger said: ↑

If people are flashing you, they're likely aimed too high. Adjust them down a bit. Just point the truck at a garage door and bring them down just a little, equally. Not hard. There are adjustments on the back of them.
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If im looking at the adjustment screw, what will make them go down? clockwise or counter clockwise?

Kyle · Mar 3, 2010

RainDodger said: ↑

Ok, I don't get it. Why would anyone want HID fog lights? There are basically 2 types of aux lights - fog lights and driving lights. They are 2 different things. Driving lights have a long range, with a "pencil-type" beam, made for seeing a long ways down the road. Fog lights have a low, wide, and short range beam, for literally going under the fog, along the roadway, and for seeing well to the sides of the vehicle. They are designed for slow speed use.

Fogs should only be used in the FOG. They create glare when combined with rain, as they reflect off shiny pavement. Generally speaking, unless you live somewhere that heavy fog is a usual occurence, fog lights are pretty stupid to have. Why they put them on vehicles as nearly standard equipment, baffles me.

Driving lights, on the other hand, are useful. Generally they are illegal if used in combination with high-beams. They are supposed to be used only with low beams in MOST places. (I wire mine to work WITH high beams, but I figure I'm only using them when no one is in front of me anyway... in 40+ years of using driving lights, this has worked great.)

So, my bottom-line opinion is, fog lights are stupid and why anyone would try to make them brighter by putting in HIDs is beyond me. They will just create monstrous glare most of the time. If you want HIDs, combine them with DRIVING light lenses (or off-road lights). They'll be useful there. (Off-road lights are a totally different animal and shouldn't be mounted down low like fogs though - different subject.)

Then again, I don't get the craze for turning on fog lights anyway. You don't look any more "cool" than any other time, and you just piss people off, which doesn't do any of us any good.

There. That's the way it is.
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I dont agree with you. The fogs actually put out more light then the head lights. They do not shoot as far but way wider and they increase visibility considerably. I know if i am driving in the mountains and i cant see the sides of the road turn the fogs on and everything is visible. Dont mean to argue just stating my opinion.

bdwsrjoe · Mar 3, 2010

Kyle said: ↑

I dont agree with you. The fogs actually put out more light then the head lights. They do not shoot as far but way wider and they increase visibility considerably. I know if i am driving in the mountains and i cant see the sides of the road turn the fogs on and everything is visible. Dont mean to argue just stating my opinion.
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I dont think he likes HID's......

thinkingman · Mar 3, 2010

bdwsrjoe[OP] initial post: ↑

Are HID fog lights illegal? I've been getting alot of people flashing their high beams at me after installing them?
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You should.
Driving in traffic with ANY fogs on=tool

RainDodger · Mar 3, 2010

Kyle, that's what fogs are for - to see to the sides. You're not arguing. I'd agree with you. Fogs will help you see the shoulders on curvy roads at reasonable speeds.

It is not possible for the stock fogs on our trucks to put out more light than our headlights though. That is not possible, because they are a lower wattage than our stock 55W/60 headlights. The beam pattern is certainly different though, and they're more effective up close and to the sides, than headlights.

Again, you're using them correctly. It's the people running fogs on all the time, rain or shine, at highway speeds that are not getting any use out of them.

RainDodger · Mar 3, 2010

... oh... the adjustment for the fogs. I don't know which way to turn them to go up (or down)... if you're aiming them at a garage door or something, it will be apparent which way they're going. You can watch the beam go up or down while turning the adjustment.

Kyle · Mar 3, 2010

RainDodger said: ↑

Kyle, that's what fogs are for - to see to the sides. You're not arguing. I'd agree with you. Fogs will help you see the shoulders on curvy roads at reasonable speeds.

It is not possible for the stock fogs on our trucks to put out more light than our headlights though. That is not possible, because they are a lower wattage than our stock 55W/60 headlights. The beam pattern is certainly different though, and they're more effective up close and to the sides, than headlights.

Again, you're using them correctly. It's the people running fogs on all the time, rain or shine, at highway speeds that are not getting any use out of them.
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Totally agree with you for sure. If people are on a mountain or in the desert put them on but not on a two way highway for one its illegal and for two its fucking blinding. You have to use them with respect in mind i believe.

bootboiler · Feb 6, 2012

bdwsrjoe[OP] said: ↑

I guess ill just keep turning them off when somebody flashes me........
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Did plug them right in or run a separte Harness? I have the DMM 35's, 55's seems a bit hot for that small area, to me...

Wondering if I should run them with a new harness, rather than the stock one.

holyfield19 · Feb 6, 2012

RainDodger said: ↑

Ok, I don't get it. Why would anyone want HID fog lights? There are basically 2 types of aux lights - fog lights and driving lights. They are 2 different things. Driving lights have a long range, with a "pencil-type" beam, made for seeing a long ways down the road. Fog lights have a low, wide, and short range beam, for literally going under the fog, along the roadway, and for seeing well to the sides of the vehicle. They are designed for slow speed use.

Fogs should only be used in the FOG. They create glare when combined with rain, as they reflect off shiny pavement. Generally speaking, unless you live somewhere that heavy fog is a usual occurence, fog lights are pretty stupid to have. Why they put them on vehicles as nearly standard equipment, baffles me.

Driving lights, on the other hand, are useful. Generally they are illegal if used in combination with high-beams. They are supposed to be used only with low beams in MOST places. (I wire mine to work WITH high beams, but I figure I'm only using them when no one is in front of me anyway... in 40+ years of using driving lights, this has worked great.)

So, my bottom-line opinion is, fog lights are stupid and why anyone would try to make them brighter by putting in HIDs is beyond me. They will just create monstrous glare most of the time. If you want HIDs, combine them with DRIVING light lenses (or off-road lights). They'll be useful there. (Off-road lights are a totally different animal and shouldn't be mounted down low like fogs though - different subject.)

Then again, I don't get the craze for turning on fog lights anyway. You don't look any more "cool" than any other time, and you just piss people off, which doesn't do any of us any good.

There. That's the way it is.
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WOW! I disagree totally. I Have recently done a fog light retro with HID projectors and I don't think you could be farther from the truth. Much better IMO. I drive to work everyday early early morning hours, over 2 lakes 80% of the time the fog is very thick. HID's cut it. really a big difference since i have done the retro, much better visibility IMO.

DOUBLEJTACOMA · Mar 7, 2012

thinkingman said: ↑

You should.
Driving in traffic with ANY fogs on=tool
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I agree 100%

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