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High Performance 4.0 V6 Motor?

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by VABUCKAROO, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:31 PM
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    Supercharge and only get 300??? Thats a damn shame, waste of parts and money. you can get 300 going N/A all damn day on the 4.0

    Internals, management and the right turbo/super and 600 is very attainable.
     
  2. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:45 PM
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    How much more do you have to spend to get 300 NA horsepower?
     
  3. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM
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    Punk Pony is Balboa. He used to regular Custom Tacos. Hasn't been any progress on his engine in quite some time. They did twin charge it, and get the kit "running" but never properly/safely tuned and running 100%. Shame.....it has potential.
     
  4. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:52 PM
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    Damn shame. Hopefully someday then, I'm reading over on XR-underground, this guy has built the shit out of his as he races it, but also seems to have fallen off the map as well. Check out his forward facing manifold if you havent already seen it.

    http://www.xr-underground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34492&page=13
     
  5. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:57 PM
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    Depending on pistons, $600-1100, higher compression necessary. Rods if you are in there. $1200. Not all that necessary if staying N/A, unless raising the rev limiter. Then replacing the the head gaskets and studs....

    Of course then an aftermarket EMS to properly run things.....That price has a decent range on it.

    If looking for 300 wtq, though, it will be much easier. Intake, headers, pulleys, EMS, light weight flywheel, light wheels.
     
  6. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:59 PM
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    Seems like a blower is just plain easier for 300. Bolt on and go.
     
  7. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:01 PM
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    Baja 1GR. I like his build, and am really interested in an intake similar to his. Although, I won't run my injectors internally. Since i have an upgraded fuel rail.
     
  8. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:02 PM
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    Quite, sir. Quite.
     
  9. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:08 PM
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    Agreed, quite damn easy, however how long will that last with no management at all?

    If you want the quickest way to 300, borrow a bottle of NOS from someone and push the little red button, you will see 300++++++++++... :boom:

     
  10. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM
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    If you just throw on a TRD S/C (complete stock as it comes outta the box) you never really have an issue with reliability (no more then a N/A motor)
     
  11. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM
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    Also, the cams that are in Punk Pony's/Balboa's engine, are worked by Web Cam, out of Cali. They maintain the base circle of the factory cam, by welding on addition material to the lobes, then grinding to the specific degrees that you want. Simply regrinding the cam to a different degree is not good on our cams because you lose the base circle. Which is mainly affected by the fact that we have cams on shim buckets. Non adjustable. Only can replace cam buckets with thicker ones.
     
  12. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM
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    I would be paranoid as shit about them being internal, but thats me not being educated on internal injectors. Fear of the unknown unknown.
     
  13. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:20 PM
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    F1 style. It is common and proven, with the injectors.

    As for the TRD s/c, there are options. For the simplistic, the Toyota reflash. Safe and effective. Even works on turbos. ;) Or go upgraded EMS. No problem.
     
  14. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM
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    Personally I would go piggy back(if can be made to work on 1gr ECU, or just plain stand alone.)

    Some of the biggest issues with this motor and Performance parts, is that there is no real demand, you got 5 guys asking for it, and the other 250k are like nah im good.
     
  15. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:32 PM
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    See below:


     
  16. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM
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    You can do it so can I, see Torspd's comment, REFLASH!!!!!

    So go ahead bolt it on with out doing it, run lean burn up your valve and rings and see how your sitting for "bolt-on power"
     
  17. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:53 PM
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    Well the flash is part of the blower install. If you run without it you are a derp and deserve a burnt up engine.
     
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    The TRD reflash is part of the S/C install (it's kinda of implied and in the instructions when installing it) so if you fail to do this part you probably failed at installing the S/C right in the first place. :cool:
     
  19. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM
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    HAHAHA derp derp. Derps are there for our enjoyment.

    But is that included if you buy opting to install yourself?
     
  20. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM
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    You would have to have the dealer flash it. Probably $90.
     
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