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Hilux RC60F Transmission swap

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Jowett, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Sep 17, 2019 at 6:42 PM
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    Yep…
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  2. Sep 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM
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    I wonder if the reverse is possible. Put the RC62F into a 1st Gen Tundra 4.0 V6 (1GR-FE) instead of the RA60.
     
  3. Sep 18, 2019 at 4:02 PM
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    Good question. I sold off my spare RA60 many years ago... so I can't compare.
     
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  4. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:40 AM
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  5. Sep 19, 2019 at 6:29 AM
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    Much better than simply changing the axle ratio, hope it works out! This had me curious what my 6spd Frontier has for gearing as it works pretty good with the stock tire size (265/75R16).

    Transmission: FS6R31A
    1st: 4.368
    2nd: 2.518
    3rd: 1.743
    4th: 1.283
    5th: 1.000
    6th: 0.769
    Reverse: 3.966

    Axle: 3.692
    Low range: 2.653
    Crawl ratio: 42.78
     
  6. Sep 19, 2019 at 7:13 AM
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    Watching— I did an h41 swap in my fj40 and it made the rig so much better. 4.9 1st gear is a game changer.

    The Tacoma would be so much better with a lower first/revers.
     
  7. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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    The RC60F should be here by week's end.
     
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    Looking forward to this.
     
  9. Oct 1, 2019 at 6:34 AM
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    Unpacked, inspected, OK'd. The shift extension is interesting, it moves the pivot point rearward 4.5", and up about 2". I won't be using it as it won't allow room for the manual transfer case shifter.
    IMG_2979.jpg
     
  10. Oct 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM
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    Wow — looks great!!
     
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  12. Oct 1, 2019 at 8:36 AM
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    Bravo man. I love seeing stuff intrepid people come up with like this. Stoked to follow along.
     
  13. Oct 1, 2019 at 3:17 PM
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    The bellhousing is a bit shorter on the RC60F, 188 mm vs 208 mm on the RC62F. Hopefully the input shaft is the same length. If there's enough time this week, I'll consider dropping the transmission from the Taco and comparing.
     
  14. Nov 3, 2019 at 7:28 PM
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    No updates ATM... too many irons in the Tacoma fire. The truck is torn down fairly deep, I'll be rolling on it again soon.
     
  16. Nov 20, 2019 at 11:40 AM
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    Will be interested to see how things play out. For what it's worth, Toyota generally keeps things the same as far as input shafts go between transmissions and engines. The input shaft on the Tacoma is different than the Hilux but that is primarily due to the gear ratio change. There are very few part numbers different between the RC60 and RC62; I had been looking into gear swapping options previously.

    Honestly I expect you'll need to swap the bellhousing and the shifter and that'll be that.

    Jeff
     
  17. Nov 20, 2019 at 12:31 PM
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    All of the research I did was with the RC61F vs the RC62F. The RC61F is used behind the 2.8l diesel available in the Hilux. The RC60F I believe is used with the 2.4l diesel hilux. This is possibly where you are getting the difference in the bellhousing length differences as well as it having a shift extension housing.

    The transfer case I have been looking at is the FJ auto transmission case with a manual transmission input shaft swapped into it.

    I have not gotten the ball rolling on my swap other than researching which parts will fit where. If these transmissions follow the transmissions that Toyotas have been equipped with then even if the case is not compatible the internal parts will interchange.

    Case in point on the old school R series transmissions you could take parts from the R452 remote shift, R150, R151 and some Marlin Crawler shift forks build a hell of a good transmission.

    @Jeff Lange can you do some looking into the part numbers on the RC60F, RC61F and the RC62F to see if I am correct on the engine and transmission configurations being correct on the 2.4l vs 2.8l vs 3.5l.

    Also OP sorry I haven’t chimed in on this thread earlier this time of year is outage season at work and I am pretty much working 7-12s. We are on the down hill side of that until spring outages start in March so if you need anything from me please message me.
     
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  18. Nov 20, 2019 at 1:26 PM
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    Thank you both for the input!

    My input shaft dealings come from Diesel/gas Land Cruisers, where there are several different input shafts. Different engines had different length input shafts.... and bellhousings.

    Everything I can find points to all Hilux and Fortuner equipped with 1KD, 1GD, and 2GD utilizing the same 31111-0K150 bell housing. The RC60F is utilized with the 2.4 2GD.

    No need for apologies, appreciate the time.
     
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    The diesel power train gear ratios are definitely better than the ones that we got stuck with. Toyota is also great at doing things totally different from market to market.this can cause some confusion. I hope the Transmission you got has the correct tail housing and is not set up for a land cruiser case. Next time I am in the PI I am going to do my best to source a lightly used RC61F from a wrecked Hilux to bring back in my check luggage for my own use.

    @Jowett Big thanks for taking this bull by the horns and trying to get us a good solution to gear ratio issues.
     
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  20. Nov 20, 2019 at 1:37 PM
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    If I am not mistaken the RC61F was also used in the FJ Cruiser too.
     

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