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Hilux RC60F Transmission swap

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Jowett, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Nov 23, 2022 at 10:07 AM
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    Good to know on the shifter part.

    as for buying the transmission, it’s listed straight on the Toyota parts site and all the other dealer sites. None of them mention needing a vin. On parts I needed a vin, they said so in the listing. I’m not buying yet but in a few months I might. If I do, we’ll see what happens.

    I’d rather the RC61F over the RC60F, so it works out if I’m able to get that one locally.
     
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  3. Nov 23, 2022 at 10:33 AM
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    Has anyone swapped the RC60F to a 2tr-fe a-l-a 2nd gen regular cab?
     
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  4. Nov 23, 2022 at 11:10 AM
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    The RC60/61 transmissions are Hilux parts, non-USA. Toyota stocks them here for some reason… being a non USA model, they more often than not want proof that the part they will be selling you is for a vehicle that is legally in the country.
     
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  5. Nov 23, 2022 at 12:54 PM
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    For everything else.... :popcorn: (but yes, probably)
     
  6. Nov 23, 2022 at 8:17 PM
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    The RA and RC were never offered behind the 2TR, so a bit of research and probably an adapter of some sort will be required to make that work.
     
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    The RC60/61 parts are in the Toyota USA system because they are used in Mexico/other markets serviced through distribution centers in the US. The parts may or may not be orderable from a US dealer. Frequently not, regardless of whether you can see it listed/priced on a US dealer website.

    Wait and see.

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    Confirm from our parts manager, if you want to order one of those transmissions you will need to provide a VIN.
     
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    Well, at some point I’ll likely try anyways and I’ll probably try to find a 1GD 2.8L truck for sale overseas whose VIN I can borrow. If they request more info than that like proof of registration, then I tried and will drop it. Some of the parts sites that require VINs don’t even seem to uphold that requirement, so we’ll see. If I try one and it cancels, I’ll try one or two more, worst case I won’t get anywhere.

    I don’t hate the stock transmission, just wish it was better suited to the 5.29 regear I’m doing. But, 5.29s and stock trans will suit me better than 4.30 and stock trans do. It will be a very good combo other than cruising relatively high in 6th.
     
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  10. Nov 24, 2022 at 7:17 AM
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    Looked around on Toyota.MX and didn't find any VINs listed - but that doesn't mean they aren't available.

    Another source might be Toyota-gib.com.
     
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    So, granted a completely different engine, buuut, my only real experience with cruising at higher than stock RPM during my drive earlier this week to bring my Tundra home.

    75 ish to 80 ish hovered at 2500 rpm

    I was nervous but fuel economy was fine and so was heat. It reallly wasn’t any sort of problem at all.

    My only real concern after an extended drive post regear is the punch when shifting. It’s more pronounced. But that’s an AT so nothing I can do and doesn’t apply to MT.

    now I’m more seriously considering doing a regear plus locker in the ‘05.
     
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    I have not found that raising the rpm due to a regear negatively affects fuel economy very much unless you gear super drastically and you drive fast, 80+. Hell, I drove to work at 72 mph one day in 4th gear just to see how it would do and over 35 miles, I got right at 15 mpg at 3500 rpm. That’s barely worse than I get already in 6th (17ish) and that’s with a difference of 1100 rpm.

    as for punching it, it should be immediately more responsive, but the auto may cover that up by shifting at a different time or you may not feel the effect due to the torque converter. With a manual, you absolutely will feel the difference instantly because there’s nowhere for it to hide in that direct driveline connection.

    4.88 would be sweet in that 2.7L. Do you need a locker? You may be better off with a TrueTrac LSD, a locker is more for tough offroad like crawling and such which you won’t be doing in a 2WD I presume. A TT may fit the pre runner theme better and may benefit you more often.

    edit: misread the punch comment. Yes, nothing you can do about that in an auto but of course won’t apply to a manual.
     
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    Definitely considering another LSD. I went with nitro (same as truetrac?) in the '02 Tundra b/c I wanted it built to "never break" rather than "go anywhere nimbly". The '05, with it's super short wheelbase and light weight, might be a fun candidate for a locker just in case it did get stuck somewhere.

    Since it's starting at 4.30, going to 4.56 doesn't seem like a good way to burn cash so 4.88 might be the ticket, plus maybe a little bigger on tires. But then it's less street friendly which is really the primary purpose. Nice to have one rig which rides at stock height. Could still do the gears and stay on 245/75R16 though, no rule against that.
     
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    4.88 on 31 or 32 would be absolute blast while still retaining street ability
     
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    I thought 4 cylinder second gens were 4.10. The third gen manuals are 4.30.
     
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    Well, f me, am I wrong on my factory gears? I’m 4.10?

    I’ll check the door sticker next chance I get. For some reason I remember a vin check showing 4.30

    Ah, found the doc. 8.4” and 4.10 so maybe that’s why I was thinking 4.56 and Eaton.

    Anyway, enough thread pollution, let’s get back to hilux trans and 3rd Gen :)
     
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