Hmmmm, new daily driver???

Miata
0.0682468328565591 HP/lb


BRZ
0.0718132854578097 HP/lb

Miata is cheaper and HP per lbs is almost the same Haha There is no real info on the True HP from the BRZ this is just speculated

 

The problem though is that it is also a Miata.

And I think the math you did was POUNDS per HP. Fuck, I'd even drive a Miata if it had 14hp/lb.

 

You know the most difficult part about driving a Miata?



Telling your father that you're gay

+1

 

Yep down side is its a Miata

You are correct my bad Fixed

 

People asking why this doesn't compare to other mid-range sports cars don't understand car niches. This doesn't seek to rival those cars, it wants to stay in the super-light sport coupe category. And an STi and EVO, etc, etc are about 6-8k dollars more.

It's built to destroy the track, be fun, be cheap and be reliable. Plus, all the reviews out for it have been phenomenal.

 

as they have stated....i await the stig

 

Somehow I doubt the tracksters will be getting rid of their mini-coopers or Corvettes (depending how rich they are).

I liked the idea Toyota had with this vehicle. I just wish they could've actually executed it.

 

x2!

 

Only thing on the track it will be destroying is its brakes

 

The Subaru version has more understeer, sounds like a better fit for you.

Why? At this weight you would barely need to touch them (and since it's sooo underpowered ) and when you do need them there is a lot less car to stop.

This. Could it use more power? Sure, most cars could. Does it need more power? No. If you need power get a muscle car, this doesn't compare

FR-S/BRZ, Miata = Light nimble cars

Genesis Coupe = Kinda in between

Mustang, Camaro, Challenger = Powerful cars

Since everyone loves numbers (these are current base model with MT rough spec/prices, don't hold me to these exact numbers):
- Subaru/Scion BRZ/FR-S (200 hp, 151 lb-ft, 2758 lbs, 13.79 lb/hp) $25000-$25500
- Hyundai Genesis Coupe (274 hp, 275 lb-ft, 3362-3492 lbs, 12.27-12.74 lb/hp) $24500-$26500
- Mazda Miata (176 hp, 140 lb-ft, 2447 lbs,13.92 lb/hp) $23500-$25800
- Dodge Challenger (305 hp, 268 lb-ft, 3834 lbs, 12.57 lb/hp) $25000
- Ford Mustang (305 hp, 280 lb-ft, 3500 lbs, 11.48 lb/hp) $22200-$23500
- Chevy Camaro (323 hp, 278 lb-ft, 3750 lbs, 11.61 lb/hp) $23300

I could be biased, I just test drove an FR-S on Saturday and put a deposit down for the next one they get. Hopefully within a month.

 

I kinda dig the BRZ\FR-S, I just got the new R&T and for what its worth this test was in it.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/comparison/mazda-mx-5-miata-vs-subaru-brz-vs-hyundai-genesis-coupe

 

Light weight cars are awesome. I've wanted a Mazda RX8 for quite some time. I would love to have a new 86 but the price is too much for what you are getting, maybe a used one some other day but for now I can pick up an RX8 for $15,000 to $20,000 in good shape with low mileage.

 

Scion will have their trd and subaru will have their sti. Both will be fast and rwd, personally cant wait to drive one of these or see on in person.

 

Its pretty nice, looked at one the other day when I was at the dealership picking some stuff up. They are REALLY COOL. But I've done the sports/import car scene before, and I refuse to go back. As far as speed and fun, I'll stick with my motorcycle. If I ever buy another 2 door sports car it will be a corvette. Just my 2 cents

 

I don't like the "get less, pay more" concept that is present with these cars. Yea, they weigh less but you sacrifice a lot of features and muscle over cars in the same price range. I also think boxer fours sound like poo (personal opinion of course) and don't care much for the styling or the fact that Toyota is marketing it as a Scion (GIRL CAR!!!).

However, the Honda S2000 had a couple years on a similar premise, except it was much edgier and more expensive. Maybe this car can appeal to even more people since it's cheaper than the S2000 was...