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  1. Jul 18, 2019 at 5:57 PM
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    SkinnyP2

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    What? The stock photo?
     
  2. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:03 PM
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    The screen shot with parts and prices is an OEM hood price and part number. The picture of the actual hood you posted is an aftermarket non-OEM hood.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:19 PM
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    What? That doesn’t even make sense, troll elsewhere dude
     
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    Not trolling, trying to help you out in case you actually bought that at a dealership. I run a body shop and was the parts manager for quite a while. Everything aftermarket comes in boxes like that marked CAPA Certified if it is even CAPA certified. Almost all Toyota sheet metal comes in brown cardboard boxes fully sealed with white stickers and red lettering. The box literally says WWW.CAPACERTIFIED.COM

    Here’s a link to describe the difference between OEM and CAPA certified.

    https://www.revemoto.com/blogs/news/what-are-capa-certified-car-parts-and-is-it-worth-the-extra-cost
     
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    I’m not too concerned. Apparently it’s better if not on par with OEM. If the dealer sold be a CAPA vs. OEM then I guess I should be upset but after reading your article I don’t feel like that would be a good use of my time.

    If it’s a concern to the person buying this hood then I guess I am sorry, I listed this hood to the best of my knowledge
     
  6. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    Definitely not better unfortunately. If it was sold to you as OEM then you may be able to recoup money if whoever you got it from will let you return it. Hope this helps sir.
     
  7. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:37 PM
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    I ordered a OEM hood and it came unfinished metal close to a shady of the quicksand paint. Not quite the same but it wasnt black.
     
  8. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:38 PM
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    Straight from the link you posted?

    The Certified Automotive Parts Association (CAPA) came up with a set of standards to ensure high-quality, fairly priced alternatives to OEM car parts.

    CAPA Certified car parts are subject to a comprehensive range of tests to ensure every aspect of the aftermarket part, including materials, fitment, appearance, and durability, are directly compared to and can equal, if not surpass, the OEM part.
     
  9. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:39 PM
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    That’s called E-coat. It what most Toyota OEM parts come coated in. Looks kinda cool but it’ll fade quickly just being in the sun. Meant for corrosion protection on insides and undersides of parts.
     
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    Correct
     
  11. Jul 18, 2019 at 6:41 PM
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    There’s a reason they’re cheaper. Made in a Chinese factory, no crash tests done, sub-par packaging. Maybe 1 out of everyone 40 parts I get that are aftermarket don’t need repair or don’t fit well.
     
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    Okay so what’s your end game here? To make me sell the hood for $20?
     
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    No end game, just maybe helping you return it and get your money back if it was advertised as an oem hood.
     
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    I think he's saying, if you bought this with the impression it was oem, it isn't and you should try to get money back or go back to the dealer and get proper oem...just my guess. If you paid for oem, thats what you should get
     
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    CAPA in my opinion is honestly better than OEM, I’m not an essential body shop employee like yourself but I am a mech engineer who understands codes and standards and I was surprised to see many of the ones I use day to day as being used to certify the product. The CAPA products are based out of DC, and follow all the same standards and material codes of anything you’d buy from a hardware store/body shop/piping component.

    So where does Toyota get to stamp that their hood is better made, or how can you tell me that?
     
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    Apple is headquartered in California, but we all know all of their products are made in China. The difference is a phone isnt what is protecting you and your family in a crash. CAPA certification doesn’t require crash testing of their parts. An impact bar or bumper can be CAPA certified, but they’re know to affect important systems like airbag timing which can cause a fatality. I’ve seen aftermarket hoods in a wreck made of the same material as an oem, look the same, but their crumple zones were way off and it cause the hood to snap at the hinges and go through the windshield. I’m personally fine with putting on aftermarket emblems or accessories but definitely not any sort of crash part.
     
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    OP, I think youre taking this guys feedback the wrong way. He has worked for a body shop for a while(according to him) and id say that gives him some credibility on understanding oem vs non oem parts. You may be an engineer, but don't actually work with various parts like the other guy does. Either you dont understand he's trying to save you money if you were sold non-oem at the dealership, being led to believe it was; or you didnt buy oem and are trying to pass it off that you did.
    I work with manufacturers directly and can tell you, just because another company says their competing product is comparable in materials and standards...doesnt mean that exactly. Their metal may be thinner, may not be subject to testing, may be mixed with cheaper metals etc etc...thats how they can come out cheaper. Unless it is produced at an authorized factory, theres no way its the same exact quality.
     
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    This ^^^ I assumed you didn’t know any different and that it was oem and I was trying to help but now you’re saying that you think CAPA is better than OEM, which kinda leads me to believe you know it wasn’t oem to begin with but was advertised as so, or you did 5 minutes of reading and came to the conclusion it’s better. If you need more proof that oem is superior, I’d be happy to provide hours of documentation.
     
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    This is a little annoying.
    So what codes do auto manufacturers have to adhere to when manufacturing parts that CAPA does not?

    What codes and standards are used?

    How many people have put an OEM grille on a Toyota over an EBay grille with arguably the same result.

    I am 100% not passing this off as an OEM and will be talking to the lovely Toyota dealership 900 miles away tomorrow about their position, but I’d be very interested in knowing the answers to my question if you know them.
     
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    Claims to help and calls me a liar. Yeah, I’ve got zero time for you dude.
     

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