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Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by mylittletacoma, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Aug 2, 2009 at 11:18 PM
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    DanGer

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    So just to get it straight, it rubs when you hit bumps, it rubs when you turn, it rubs on simple off roading all after you trimmed and hammered, but you got and extra 1.25" of ground clearance that you can't use in any way.

    Sorry I just don't see the logic behind this
     
  2. Aug 3, 2009 at 12:18 AM
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    you gotta understand, that when you post up in public forums, you are going to get feedback, whether you agree with the comments or not...

    essentially, you do what you like to your truck and post it up, which is an invitation for public comment...


    likely, a number of the "nay sayers" (myself included) are basing opinions on practical off road use... your truck being a 4x4, the assumption is that you needed the extra 1.25" or more lift for ground clearance, in which case, the tires might hinder performance during articulation...

    as for the rubbing issues, that is purely subjective as it is based on personal tolerance for noise... what one person considers an annoying rub, another person may not notice at all...

    but again, driving style is also a factor...
     
  3. Aug 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM
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    mylittletacoma [OP] taco? like the kind you eat?

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    i guess i should be more discriptive in the "rub, it DOES NOT rub when driving, it BARELY scims the surface when turning hard and hitting a bump.
    also this is on STOCK RIMS so when i get the spaced out rims it will clear more,
    also this is on a simply spacer 3" lift, which i am putting an extra 1" from wheeler's on this weekend, so there is that.
    also, the suspension i have on is old and squishy, so yeah the new suspension will fix that too.

    i am just say that before ou go saying there is no point or that it was dumb and defeated the prupose, find out more info and maybe have a bit of faith..... if it was rubbing so bad that it is hitting just sitting there i dont think i am that ignorant as to try to drive. it clears, and slightly scims when bumping hard,,,, WHICH I AM DRIVING SOFTLY FOR NOW, once i get the new stuff on thats when the test will come and more results.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM
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  5. Aug 3, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    and likewise, before leading other folks down the path you have chosen to pursue, come up with a comprehensive test and result session of your mods...

    you are certainly not the first to try the whole go big or go home route...

    in 2006, there was a buy in NC who was running 35s on a 3" suspension lift and by 2008, he had to buy a new truck, and in his own words,

    "i learned the hard way that lifting and big tires will rag a truck out in no time."

    this guy claimed at the time he was only driving the truck on weekends, so the devil's advocate replies we are offering up to you are to help you see another angle...

    i am not here to say its dumb or that it defeats any purpose, unless you were trying to slam the truck to the ground...

    oh, out of curiosity... how are you plannin to add an extra inch? on the older gen tacos, overextending the shock travel length between stock upper and lower arms have been known to stress and wear out the lower ball joints...

    just something to consider...
     
  6. Aug 3, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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    i am getting the OME full 3" kit with the poly spacer stacked on top, and later getting the Total Chaos UCA's, i do understand that the stlye of driving can cause the damage, i do not do heavy offraod at all, and when i offroad i kinda drive like a grandma, but i am trying giving it a shot, NOT CONDONING THAT 35'S ARE THE WAY TO GO, i am just saying it is possible and if you take care and do it right then it can be safe and useable. my main concern right now is spacing the tire away from the UCA, lining the drive train up properly and then dealing with the ball joint issues if they arise. in the mean time, i think the truck looks and drives better than it did with 32's on it, and even how 33's would have looked and felt.
     
  7. Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 PM
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    Wait a second here.........Your gonna add a 1" spacer on TOP of the 3" OME lift? And you say this is "Doing it right"???

    You have 8" of front travle. Lifting 4" id going to give you exactly 0" down travle.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM
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    doesnt the OME kit come with the longer struts? and it is the poly top plate spacer, so it shouldnt effect the travel right?
     
  9. Aug 4, 2009 at 12:01 PM
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    useless.
     
  10. Aug 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM
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    It is not a matter of the studs being long enough, it is the fact that your stock ball joints cannot articulate to the angle needed w/ 4" of lift. You are going to end up destroying your ball joints, which will get fairly expensive and is VERY dangerous if they fail.

    You are also going to be burning through half shafts at the angle they will be at.


    I would seriously reconsider what you are trying to do. The OME kit with 33''s in plenty sufficient and will get you where you need to be safely, vs trying to put 35''s under your truck, having to buy new wheels (or taking the risk of having your tires bead become unseated from the wheel), rubbing that will end up wearing out your tires, ball joints that WILL fail, a horrible ride, and of course many CV joints later.

    We're only offering you advice for your own good. I don't think anyone would be wasting there time if they didn't care about the problems you will have down the road..
     
  11. Aug 4, 2009 at 12:08 PM
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    i wish i knew that much about trucks. thanks for the knowledge.
     
  12. Aug 4, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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    who in the hell is Holly Shit?
     
  13. Aug 4, 2009 at 1:32 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Not the ones for your gen truck. They are OEM length. Also, it doesnt matter what material the top plate spacer is made of, it still pushes the shock down 1" more. Go ahead and do this to your truck, but keep in mind, what you are trying is not unique, and people are telling you not to do it for a reason.
     
  14. Aug 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM
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    mylittletacoma [OP] taco? like the kind you eat?

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    so the kit from Toyotclifts.com, the OME kit with the longer springs and longer struts is not really longer? the site was saying the springs are longer and so are the struts to make it a 3" lift without using spacers. now i am really confused about that kit.


    oh, and who ever is talking about studs and ball joints and axles, yes i know, i am dropping the differential and getting new UCA's, so thanks

    all i am wondering right now is from Chris4x4......
    if i put longer springs and longer struts, then a spacer on top is it really going to stop the compression of the strut that much to where i can not use it? take into account i am not a serious offroader, i will not be compressing to decompressing the strut that much,,,, think about it this way... would it be fine if it were on road only?
     
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    big tires man and looks cool. hell my tires rub and i have 31's. but i have deep dished 15x10's. l
     
  18. Aug 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM
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    The ones for the second gens are a bit longer, but as far as I know, the ones for the first gen are OEM length. Mine were. SO, unless they changed something, they are OEM length. I think you have had plenty of info on here to make a good choice on what to do. Give it a shot, and see what happens. FWIW, it would behoove you to consider going with 33" tires as a max size.
     
  19. Aug 4, 2009 at 8:58 PM
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    okay, so is there an option out there for longer struts and longer springs you might recommend? keep in mind i am getting new UCA's, so if anyone reading this wants to put their 2cents in.. I AM GETTING NEW UCA'S AND DROPPING THE DIFFERENTIAL DOWN AND GETTING -46MM OFFSET RIMS PLUS A 1/4" RIM SPACER.

    sorry, just getting tired of people not reading and just regurgitating stuff they have heard, thats why i am asking you because you actually put compliment with concern and well thought out information.

    so any ideas? i was thinking of maybe the Bilstein 5100's those are longer right?
    can i put those with some longer springs and that top plate spacer? if so what springs would you say would be good if not the OME?
     
  20. Aug 4, 2009 at 9:10 PM
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    The bilstien 5100 is an OEM length shock. As far as I know, the only extended shocks for the first gens are extended CO's.
     

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