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Home Defense: 9mm Semi-auto or 7.62x39mm AK-47?

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by 28ØØ3, Dec 9, 2010.

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Which one for home defense?

  1. 9mm Semi-auto pistol

    78.5%
  2. 7.62x39mm AK-47 rifle

    21.5%
  1. Feb 14, 2011 at 5:19 AM
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    bfaisok

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  2. Feb 14, 2011 at 5:31 AM
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    I'd vote, of the two, a 9mm.

    Throw a TLR-2 or a X300 on it and get some JHP rounds and good to go.

    Possibly a better set up could be something in .223...

    http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm
    specifically the "Overpenetration inside the home" part you all might be interested in looking at

    Probably a good bet to have a light on any home defense weapon.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=20&t=446092&page=1



    and of course, in keeping with the theme of this thread... what I'd really like to rock for home defense is Travis Haley's Saiga
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  3. Feb 14, 2011 at 6:48 AM
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    i have a saiga-12, that thing rocks my socks off off. i picked it up for 450 back when they came out but overall id prefer one of my pistols over a long gun
     
  4. Feb 19, 2011 at 8:10 AM
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    For me, 357. Use 38 hollow point rounds (don't want to kill someone two houses over with 357 mag rounds). I just know when called upon, IT WILL FIRE. My .02...
     
  5. Feb 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM
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  6. Mar 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM
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    12 ga. shot gun

    OR

    go online, order a few hundred round of MACE FILLED PAINTBALLS
    get a speedball paintball gun capable of say 20 bps (balls per second firing rate)
    turn up FPS
    aim for the face
    oh, and after he drops whatever he was holding keep firing till you are out, should only take about 10-15 sec
    the guy will be covered in bruises
    i know i will take crap for this about stopping power, but let me ask you guys this
    have you ever had 68 caliber anything hit you multiple time in 1 second moving like 300-350 fps
    especially in the face
    you will stop, and add the mace into that, you will be on the ground
    i have been hit in the side of the head WITH A MASK ON and it dropped me to ground
    and the mace paintballs are used in some of the prisons to subdue inmates if things get bad enough

    and all you have to do is hold the trigger down and spray and pray, dont have to worry about what is behind it as much, since it is non lethal, hurts like hell, but non lethal and wont go through walls

    make sure you get lots of practice before hand (buy cheep Walmart paint, it is great for practice)



    Oh and the only reason i say this is i love paintball guns (and real guns)
     
  7. Mar 8, 2011 at 7:14 PM
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    I'll always take my 18.5" barrel 12 gauge. If the sound doesn't get 'em the #4 buckshot will take the biggest boys down. And not with a "flesh wound" from heavy dove.
     
  8. Mar 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM
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    This is one of the dumbest questions I've seen... both weapons are no where near related and have almost completely different purposes... sorry if this has already been said... its like comparing a Toyota Supra to a Toyota Tacoma sure they are both vehicles made by Toyota but they have different purposes and abilities
     
  9. Apr 3, 2011 at 7:33 AM
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    You'd be an idiot to use an assault rifle for primary home defense. yeah, you can put down some damage but at the expense of taking out one of your kids in another room or a neighbor across the yard. Whatever you use, think about what is behind what you may be shooting at prior to that situation arising. My kids rooms are across the hall from my wife's and mine, so if someone were to come through that door, I better place those rounds perfectly and from an angle where my kids won't be in danger. Something to think about... I still keep my Sig P220 close at hand with a backup 12 guage. I'll just aim for a head shot to keep it away from my kid's height. ;)
     
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    A pump shotgun will do the trick.
     
  11. Apr 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM
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    OK.. first off, on over penetration... simple... stone walls. :D Live in a bunker, you won't have problems.

    Not a bad idea, except for when you get the guy(s) breaking in who are higher than holy hell on some shit (meth, coke, heroin.. a mixture of all?).. I've seen how effective mace and pepper spray is on drugged up people.. they cry a little because of the chemical reaction and keep coming. I'll stick with pure stopping power.. and you can always make your kids sleep on futons.. lowers the point of aim to center of mass. :D
     
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    actually .223/5.56 FMJs behave surprisingly in this environment... the lightweight, superfast projectile tends to quickly destabilise into a tumble when punching through walls, and rather quickly breaks apart... heavier and slower projectiles fired from pistols or shotguns tend to punch through a bit better... though, i wouldn't want to fire it in an enclosed space w/out hearing protection!
     
  14. Aug 2, 2012 at 8:47 AM
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    Glock 17 with 16 hollowpoints in the mag and one in the chamber next to my bed. The only negative is our bedroom is on one end of our 120 ft long house so I need something at the other end too. I've got a mossberg 702 plinkster .22 semi auto rifle and a remington 770 30.06 down at the other end but I need something a little handier than either of those. I'd like to get a smaller glock 9mm for concealed carry to keep down there.
     
  15. Aug 2, 2012 at 12:08 PM
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    Might kill your neighbor with an AK47, I agree with the shotgun. I use #4 shot for HD. Not much over penetration and the damage is acceptable. I also have a 9mm with Ranger 124gr sxt if the shotgun runs out of ammo.
     
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    More holes in the target are better than less holes

    Bigger holes in the target are better than smaller holes

    You don't shoot to scare or wound someone, you shoot to neutralize the threat.
     
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    both 9 and 7.62 will over penetrate a home.

    5.45 or frangible 7.62 is better.
     
  19. Aug 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM
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    Both. Grab the carbine if someone is shooting up your neighbors down the street. Grab the handgun if your defending your own home. As for over penetration, I have 2 words for you... "TAP rounds" They don't go through bad guys or walls. I always keep a mag of TAP rounds with my go-to carbine.
     
  20. Aug 5, 2012 at 9:33 PM
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    Remington 870 with pistol grip is my home defense :p
    i say ak cause thats my other gun
     
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