1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site
    Quick Links: Digital torque adapter Moisture meter Anyone can help me find this tool? [Updated] Taller version of Safe Jack "RennStand" or discount code? Power tool kit for working on Tacoma. Camping Trailer Project: Advice before cutting metal

Home Improvement Today?

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by Hotdog, Jul 28, 2008.

Page 1543 of 1807
  1. Feb 6, 2023 at 3:40 PM
    #30841
    Venom

    #30841
    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    The installer told me I should have the liner and cap inspected every couple of years.

    From the ground I can see some discoloration on the cap. I don't like heights to go on the roof.
     
    Venom, Feb 6, 2023
    #30841
  2. Feb 6, 2023 at 4:05 PM
    #30842
    MGMDesertTaco

    #30842
    MGMDesertTaco Come on, live a little...

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2021
    Member:
    #354573
    Messages:
    10,448
    Gender:
    Male
    MGMDesertTaco, Feb 6, 2023
    #30842
  3. Feb 6, 2023 at 4:13 PM
    #30843
    98tacoma27

    #30843
    98tacoma27 is going full "SANDWICH" Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    67,858
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Not Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5 (+295k AND COUNTING), 2006 F350 King Ranch 6.0L
    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    20230206_185918.jpg

    This is the second one I have found in this box. 20 amp double breaker wired with 12/3. No problem there except that it's no one circuit...its two circuits separate circuits sharing a neutral. I don't know who wired this but they need smacked hard.
     
    98tacoma27, Feb 6, 2023
    #30843
    E-Paz 732NJ likes this.
  4. Feb 6, 2023 at 4:19 PM
    #30844
    Delta09

    #30844
    Delta09 Requires Supervision

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Member:
    #291677
    Messages:
    13,300
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    South Central PA
    Vehicle:
    2024 SR5 DCSB 4WD
    Uhhh that's code. If a circuit is using a shared neutral both circuits have to be shut off together, hence the 220 breaker.
     
    Delta09, Feb 6, 2023
    #30844
    Big Foot, soundman98, 98tacoma27[QUOTED] and 1 other person like this.
  5. Feb 6, 2023 at 4:20 PM
    #30845
    MGMDesertTaco

    #30845
    MGMDesertTaco Come on, live a little...

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2021
    Member:
    #354573
    Messages:
    10,448
    Gender:
    Male
    I thought two separate circuits could share a neutral. :confused: Is this connected to the kitchen?
     
    MGMDesertTaco, Feb 6, 2023
    #30845
    98tacoma27 likes this.
  6. Feb 6, 2023 at 5:10 PM
    #30846
    IPNPULZ

    #30846
    IPNPULZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2014
    Member:
    #132087
    Messages:
    13,853
    Gender:
    Male
    Deeper in the South…….
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Off Road Premium 4R
    going to be fun!
    In residential with a single phase service you are permitted to share a neutral with two 120V circuits. The two circuits can be near each other (even in the same box) or far apart. There is no stipulation in code as to how close or far apart the two circuits sharing the neutral can be.
     
    IPNPULZ, Feb 6, 2023
    #30846
    soundman98 and 98tacoma27 like this.
  7. Feb 6, 2023 at 5:13 PM
    #30847
    98tacoma27

    #30847
    98tacoma27 is going full "SANDWICH" Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    67,858
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Not Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5 (+295k AND COUNTING), 2006 F350 King Ranch 6.0L
    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    The issue is it doesn't trip the breaker if one circuit shorts. I had one in the kitchen like that.
     
    98tacoma27, Feb 6, 2023
    #30847
  8. Feb 6, 2023 at 5:26 PM
    #30848
    TacoMTga

    #30848
    TacoMTga Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2018
    Member:
    #259242
    Messages:
    1,069
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Sorry but that is the way to do it to meet code for a shared neutral circuit

    tho I am sure you wish they had just run two separate circuits rather than a shared neutral circuit in the first place.
     
    TacoMTga, Feb 6, 2023
    #30848
    98tacoma27[QUOTED] likes this.
  9. Feb 6, 2023 at 5:30 PM
    #30849
    98tacoma27

    #30849
    98tacoma27 is going full "SANDWICH" Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    67,858
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Not Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5 (+295k AND COUNTING), 2006 F350 King Ranch 6.0L
    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    Hmmm, thanks for the lesson gents. I reread the code because I was concerned about the tied breaker. I had a similar circuit in the kitchen. When we first moved in I had to swap a gfi out. I misplaced my circuit finder so I tried it the old fashioned way...and I don't mean buy turning off the breakers until I found it.

    I could not get the breaker to trip with a short so I did end up throwing breakers until I found it. I wonder if there is an issue with that breaker?
     
    98tacoma27, Feb 6, 2023
    #30849
  10. Feb 6, 2023 at 5:54 PM
    #30850
    OZ-T

    #30850
    OZ-T I hate my neighbour

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Member:
    #27584
    Messages:
    50,587
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Peter North
    British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    Mag Grey 09 Trd Sport DCLB 4x4
    OME 885x , OME shocks and Dakars , Wheelers SuperBumps front and rear , 275/70/17 Hankook ATm , OEM bed mat , Weathertech digifit floor liners , Weathertech in-channel vents , headache rack , Leer 100RCC commercial canopy , TRD bedside decals removed , Devil Horns by Andres , HomerTaco Satoshi
    https://giphy.com/gifs/comedy-80s-movies-revenge-of-the-nerds-A40fNMnNPd9yU
     
    OZ-T, Feb 6, 2023
    #30850
    Drainbung, shakerhood, Kremtok and 2 others like this.
  11. Feb 6, 2023 at 6:15 PM
    #30851
    shakerhood

    #30851
    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    37,093
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    20230206_165538.jpg
    Got the framework for some shelves built in Bay 4 in the garage.
     
    shakerhood, Feb 6, 2023
    #30851
    E-Paz 732NJ, Drainbung, RustyGreen and 3 others like this.
  12. Feb 6, 2023 at 6:15 PM
    #30852
    MGMDesertTaco

    #30852
    MGMDesertTaco Come on, live a little...

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2021
    Member:
    #354573
    Messages:
    10,448
    Gender:
    Male
    MGMDesertTaco, Feb 6, 2023
    #30852
    Drainbung, OZ-T[QUOTED], Delta09 and 1 other person like this.
  13. Feb 6, 2023 at 8:22 PM
    #30853
    Pablo8

    #30853
    Pablo8 Here!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2019
    Member:
    #301483
    Messages:
    9,859
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Everson WA
    Vehicle:
    2019 Cement Sport 4X4 MT AC
    OVT, 4.88, ADM, F&R ARB lock, KO2's, RWD L MOD
    There must be if a dead short in either leg did not trip that breaker.
     
    Pablo8, Feb 6, 2023
    #30853
    soundman98 likes this.
  14. Feb 6, 2023 at 8:36 PM
    #30854
    soundman98

    #30854
    soundman98 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2021
    Member:
    #367288
    Messages:
    6,164
    Gender:
    Male
    NW Indiana
    Vehicle:
    '18 Taco Sport, '14 Ranger
    they can share a neutral. the issue is that if you leave one of the circuits on, and start fussing with the neutral, depending on where one removes the neutral, can become a live/hot wire(because you remove return path, and a plugged in device is connecting the hot to the neutral upstream of the disconnection), and a live neutral is the start of a bad day.

    so to eliminate the hazard, code requires that any circuits sharing a neutral must have a handle tie connecting the 2 breakers together--either a 2-pole breaker, or an add-on handle tie are acceptable.

    the same section of code also specifies that any network is also taped together to identify the shared neutral, but no one does that either.
     
    soundman98, Feb 6, 2023
    #30854
    Big Foot and MGMDesertTaco[QUOTED] like this.
  15. Feb 7, 2023 at 3:24 AM
    #30855
    98tacoma27

    #30855
    98tacoma27 is going full "SANDWICH" Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    67,858
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Not Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5 (+295k AND COUNTING), 2006 F350 King Ranch 6.0L
    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    I can vouch for the "no one does that"...at least with those two that I have found.
     
    98tacoma27, Feb 7, 2023
    #30855
    EPBlueTaco, soundman98[QUOTED] and MGMDesertTaco like this.
  16. Feb 7, 2023 at 3:27 AM
    #30856
    907rx7

    #30856
    907rx7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Member:
    #298028
    Messages:
    1,695
    First Name:
    James
    Vehicle:
    '20 Tacoma DCSB SR 4x4
    We had handle ties added when we bought our place. I had no idea shared neutral was a thing but the home inspector actually caught it.
     
    907rx7, Feb 7, 2023
    #30856
    soundman98[QUOTED] and MGMDesertTaco like this.
  17. Feb 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM
    #30857
    OZ-T

    #30857
    OZ-T I hate my neighbour

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Member:
    #27584
    Messages:
    50,587
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Peter North
    British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    Mag Grey 09 Trd Sport DCLB 4x4
    OME 885x , OME shocks and Dakars , Wheelers SuperBumps front and rear , 275/70/17 Hankook ATm , OEM bed mat , Weathertech digifit floor liners , Weathertech in-channel vents , headache rack , Leer 100RCC commercial canopy , TRD bedside decals removed , Devil Horns by Andres , HomerTaco Satoshi
    Tank-opolis installed

     
    OZ-T, Feb 7, 2023
    #30857
    E-Paz 732NJ, soundman98, 4x4Taco2012 and 13 others like this.
  18. Feb 7, 2023 at 3:20 PM
    #30858
    Venom

    #30858
    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    Update.

    The gas company change the outdoor gas meter. He had to check the emission on the boiler. He couldn't get a reading. Really low emission, burns clean.
     
    Venom, Feb 7, 2023
    #30858
    MGMDesertTaco, Drainbung, RustyGreen[QUOTED] and 2 others like this.
  19. Feb 7, 2023 at 3:37 PM
    #30859
    Delta09

    #30859
    Delta09 Requires Supervision

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Member:
    #291677
    Messages:
    13,300
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    South Central PA
    Vehicle:
    2024 SR5 DCSB 4WD
    They're almost too nice to know what is gonna go in it! :rofl:
     
    Delta09, Feb 7, 2023
    #30859
    soundman98, 4x4Taco2012, RustyGreen and 1 other person like this.
  20. Feb 7, 2023 at 3:49 PM
    #30860
    Fargo Taco

    #30860
    Fargo Taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2020
    Member:
    #322125
    Messages:
    8,929
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Not Drew but still Drew
    Fargo
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD Pro
    Lomax tonneau cover, N-Fab Podium steps, bed mat
    They knew what they were getting themselves into when they signed up for the job!
     
    Fargo Taco, Feb 7, 2023
    #30860
    soundman98, RustyGreen and Delta09[QUOTED] like this.
Page 1543 of 1807

Products Discussed in

Hubbell-Bell PTC100GY Weatherproof Vertical Box Mount Nonmetallic Toggle Cover, 1-Gang, Gray
$5.56
Hubbell-Bell 5121-5 One Gang Switch Cover Gray
$8.66
Watts Heat H2O Hot Water Recirculation System w/Programmable Timer, Instant Hot Water, 3 Year Warranty, Pump, 2 Adapters, Sensor Valve, Mounting Screws, 2 Supply Lines, Easy DIY Install (0955805)
$268.00
JASSFERRY Hot Water Recirculation Pump 115V 3/4" NPT Recirculating System Circulation Replacement Pumps for Solar Water Heater Circulating Boiler Circulator
$37.29
1/2" ID x 3/4" OD - 25Ft Clear Braided Plastic Vinyl Tubing PVC Flexible Vinyl Tube Heavy Duty UV Chemical Resistant Hose Water
$22.99
Jin&Bao Universal Garage Door Threshold Seal Strip 20FT Kit, Bottom Waterproof Rubber Weather Stripping Replacement（Black, 2 Adhesive）
$41.99
CALPOSE Propane Refill Adapter with Valve and Gauge, Fill 1 Pound Bottles from 20lb Tank, Fits QCC1 / Type1 Propane Tank and 1 lb Throwaway Disposable Cylinder Propane Bottle Connector
$16.47
uxcell 4Pcs Wall Grommets for Cables 3/4" Silicone Cable Wall Bushing Feed Through Cable Routing Kit Accessories Wall Cable Pass Through for Ethernet with 7mm Hole, White
$8.49
10FT (118-7/64") T5T8 Tube Light Fixture LED Linkable Cord, Double end Connector Cable, Power Extension Wire for LED Integrated Single Fixture, Shop light, Garage Light, Under Cabinet Light, Pack of 4
$21.59
6FT (70-55/64") T5 T8 Tube Light Fixture LED Linkable Cord, Double end Connector Cable, Power Extension Wire for LED Integrated Single Fixture, Shop light, Garage Light, Under Cabinet Light, Pack of 4
$15.99
Laser Level,WEIDDW 4D 16 Lines Laser Level 4x360 Self Leveling Tool for Construction and Picture Handing Green Cross Line Vertical and Horizontal Line leveler Tool
$36.79
Barrina 8FT LED Shop Lights, 72W 10000LM 6500K, Clear Cover Linkable Tube Light, T8 V Shape Ceiling Lights for Garage, Warehouse, Workshop, 10 Pack
$189.99
Lifreer Revolutionary Furniture Touch Up Markers, 12 Colors Wood Scratch Repair Markers Kit - Perfect for Stains, Scratches, Wood Floors, Tables, and Bedposts - Easy to Use and Long-Lasting Results!
$13.49
2 Pack Face Frame Full Overlay 175 Degree Lazy Susan Hinge, Clip ON Plate, Chibery Soft Close Multi-Pivot Concealed Hardware for Corner Kitchen Cabinet, Cupboard Folded, Folden Door, Closets
$20.99
15" Gas Struts 22.5lb/100N Gas Prop Spring Shock with L Mounts for Light Duty Cabinet Door Lid Tool Toy Storage Box Truck Cap Topper Camper Window Lift Supports (Support Weight 17-25lbs)
$24.99
Fastcap PSSR-25 25-Foot ProCarpenter Lefty/Righty Standard Measuring Tape
$10.99
2188874 Refrigerator Condenser Motor Replacement Compatible with Whirlpool Kenmore Refrigerator Replaces WP2188874 PS11739140 AP6006075 W11042567 W11253683
$18.98
2315549 Refrigerator Evaporator Fan Motor Compatible with Whirlpool Kenmore Refrigerator Replaces WP2315549 PS11740362 ESF-U2A AP6007250 2220569 1193008 EAP11740362 by ATMA SUPPLY
$15.99
Magnetic Thermal Insulated Door Curtain,Thicker Layered Fabric Doorway Curtains,Temporary Door Insulation Cover Keep Warm Winter&Cool Summer,Dark Grey Fabric Door Window Insulation Kit for Winter
$28.86
FastCap PowerHead Wood Screws with Flat Head - Self-Tapping Point - 3" Length, #2 Square Drive, Zinc Finish, 50-Pack - 99962
$11.07
Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, ETL Listed, Corded Electric with ON/Off Switch, 8 Pack
$59.99
Moen 7295SRS Brantford One-Handle Pullout Kitchen Faucet Featuring Power Clean and Reflex, Spot Resist Stainless
$286.18
Delta Faucet Essa Kitchen Faucet with Pull Down Sprayer, Kitchen Sink Faucet Brushed Nickel, Magnetic Docking Spray Head, Delta Kitchen Faucet Pull Down, Arctic Stainless 9113-AR-DST
$199.00
Ideal Security 1216 Surface Mount Storm Door Handle with Lock and Key for 1 – 1 ½ inches Thick Doors (White, 4-Posts)
$45.00
YOMESTE Wall Mounted Waterproof Paper Holder Bathroom Paper Roll Holder (White)
$13.99
Paper Print That's What She Said - Michael Scott Quote - Office Hope Poster (18.5" X 12.5", Rolled)
$10.69
Powerbuilt Slide Hammer Locking Pliers Set, 9" Locking Pliers, Sturdy 2 Pound Slide Hammer with a Quick Release Swiveling Coupler, Quick Connect Flex Joint Connection - 645044
$50.56
4" Diamond Polishing Pads, 12PCS Wet/Dry Granite Stone 50-6000 Grit for Drill, Grinder, Polisher - For Concrete Marble Stone Countertop Quartz
$25.19
Best Pro Lighting Waterproof Wire Nuts Pack of 12
$16.00
Feekoon 3 Pcs Light Socket to Plug Adapter, Convert E26 Light Socket to 3 Prong Outlet Adapter, Screw in Outlet for Lamp Sockets for Garage Porch (White)
$11.99
JESLED T8 LED 4FT Type A+B Light Bulbs, 24W(65W Equivalent), 3000LM, 6000K Super Bright, Plug and Play or Ballast Bypass, 4 Foot LED Fluorescent Tube Replacement, ETL Listed, Dual-Ended, Clear(4-Pack)
$38.99
Brite Star Vintage Christmas String Lights Multi C9 25 Feet - Old-Fashioned Bulbs Perfect for Christmas - Patriotic Decorations, Indoor and Outdoor Use.
$28.49
RV Designer AC Self-Contained Dual Outlet with Cover Plate S811 - 15 Amp 125 VAC Power Outlet Receptacle for RVs & Motorhomes - White - Safe & Simple Design - Dual Slots - OEM Use
$14.95
DEWALT Double Bevel Sliding Miter Saw, 12", Compound (DWS780)
$649.00
Summit...responsible solutions 110-12 Mosquito Dunks, 6-Pack
$7.74
Black & Decker The Complete Guide to Wiring, Updated 7th Edition: Current with 2017-2020 Electrical Codes (Volume 7) (Black & Decker Complete Guide, 7)
$36.97
645038 Bosch Appliance Filter Micro
$32.00
Chamberlain B6713T Smart Advanced Corner LED Lighting-myQ Smartphone Controlled-Ultra Quiet, Strong Belt Drive & MAX Lifting Power, Blue Garage Door Opener
$295.10
MEECO'S RED DEVIL #1332 Furnace Gasket Cement and Stove Sealer - High Temperature Adhesive for Fiberglass Gasketing - Ideal for Repairing Small Cracks in Stoves - 1/2 Pint Tub (Black)
$10.90
M18 Cordless Lithium-Ion 6-1/2" Circular Saw - 2630-20 - ( MILWAUKEE ) - BARE TOOL
$115.55
Tyvek Sheathing Tape 1.88" x 164' Pack of 6
$69.95
MeBantoo Slide Bolt Gate Latch Hardware, Barrel Bolt Latch, 6.3" Heavy Duty Solid 304 Stainless Steel Silver Finish Lock for Wooden Fence/Shed/Yard/Barn Door/Interior and Outdoor (Silver)
$26.99
To Top