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Hondo Garage's New Thing

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by wileydavis, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Dec 15, 2018 at 6:54 AM
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    gmacmt

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    Hello everyone, it's been a minute! Wiley took over forum duties and i've been making an effort to manage the work life balance thing. My wife and I are expecting our first kid basically any day now, super stoked. It's a boy, Silas, and I am literally going to have to keep myself from filling our house with toy trucks.

    But I come bearing spy photos... Wiley leaves next tuesday to head to Baja for testing these prototypes. This extrusion for the rack is incredibly lightweight BTW, and super strong. Designed for walkability, with ~1/8" of deflection when attached to the roof of an XL camper with Wiley standing in the center.

    Cantilever rack. Designed for carrying max trax, firewood, pelican cases, etc.

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    Roof Deck, will be available in sections. Designed to deck the whole roof in three sections, but you don't necessarily need to deck the whole roof. This one has a solar tray for a ~100W commonly available panel. Expect install guide for wiring before product is released.

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    Single bar kit. Wiley will be using a forward deck with solar kit and a single bar rear to mount surf boards.

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    NOTE: THESE ARE ALL PROTOTYPES. Testing still yet to be performed, and release date/pricing TBD.

    To stay up to date as we get closer to release, I made a sign up form. If you want an email when its ready, this is the best way to do that. Much better than emailing our customer service team and asking. Not saying you can't do that, but we would very much prefer you sign up.

    SIGN UP HERE
     
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  2. Dec 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    SUBSCRIBED! Can't wait to get rid of the Prinsu and go with this. I've been waiting for you guys to come out with a solar panel mounting solution. Will a standard 100w panel be able to use this mount as well?
     
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  3. Dec 15, 2018 at 8:28 AM
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    That is pretty slick looking. So that forward rack over the cab won't attach to the roof at all? Do you think it would carry a full rotopax, or better yet, do you have any idea of a load limit. it looks pretty burly.
     
  4. Dec 15, 2018 at 9:22 AM
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    Or you could just take an extra few seconds and wipe the excess sand off the board.
     
  5. Dec 15, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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    The trays will hold 100 watt panels that are in the neighborhood of 48” x 22”. And the boards won’t touch since the panel sits recessed below the rack bars.
     
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  6. Dec 15, 2018 at 10:28 AM
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    These are the first run of camper specific mounted racks. There will be vehicle specific coming soon after provided it tests well. Meaning cab racks, 4runner racks, rav4 racks are not out of the question.
     
  7. Dec 15, 2018 at 10:38 AM
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    Does anybody know if the Prinsu Designs Habitatrack will work with the GFC?
     
  8. Dec 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM
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    Any rack should work as long as its not directly underneath our camper. That said, i'd wait til feb before buying anything... :alien:

    For those that already have the prinsu full length cab rack and are looking to keep it, we have had multiple customers cut down existing units on four door tacomas. You still have two mount points on each side and it seems to work well.
     
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  9. Dec 15, 2018 at 10:40 AM
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    That's a good call, better to have the GFC in hand before making any decisions :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Dec 15, 2018 at 11:37 AM
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    https://smile.amazon.com/Renogy-Wat...ns&keywords=renogy+100+watt+solar+panel&psc=1

    This 100W panel seems like the right size. I like the idea of running that panel toward the front of the camper, like Wiley has in the pic, and then having the rack or bars to haul bikes or whatever. I have a smaller Renogy panel that I have had zero issues with and it seems very well made. And in my experience 100w is plenty of power to keep a battery going strong with fridge and lighting. I've built multiple power packs for smaller and larger applications and I really think ill do the 100w Renogy in that new mount they are working on and just leave it up there. Sweet setup.
     
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  11. Dec 15, 2018 at 3:35 PM
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    Thanks for confirming! I've had one sitting in the garage, waiting for you guys to come out with a rack. Glad to hear it's on it's way!
     
  12. Dec 15, 2018 at 3:57 PM
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    I was wondering if any other GFC owners have extrusions that are a bit out of square, where the top and bottom don't match up? This makes it nearly impossible to close with all the cushions in place. As you can see from my attached photos, when you close the camper the extrusions are just shy of 1/4" out of square when compressed down to the matching bottom side. In my case this makes closing the passenger's side pin real hard. In "bunk" mode (sleeping solo with the two small cushions removed) it closes up without much hassle, but adding any more cushion and getting the passenger side pin to latch becomes very, very hard as it won't come down square. I have to hang with all my weight (155 lbs) on it and try to pull it to the passenger side and after multiple attempts I can get the bolt to slide through, otherwise it won't match up with the hole. I find it impossible to close with all 4 cushions (though Graeme was able to get it to close with all 4 cushions with some effort).

    After picking up the camper the end of last month, I went on winter camping trip to Cooke City in the camper I returned through Belgrade and both Graeme and Wiley took a look at it. Wiley banged on the sides of the extrusion with a dead blow hammer, but I don't think it really had any effect. I know you have to take your time closing the camper, opening front and rear windows to let the air out, and tucking the sides, then press on the rear center with all your body weight, etc, but other than "bunk" mode, this camper won't close up for me. Wiley said extrusions were within spec. but looks like I'm going to have to make another trip back up there. I'm not sure what they can do.

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  13. Dec 15, 2018 at 4:38 PM
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    Mines the same. Figured they're manufactured that way for clearance reasons.

    When I was breaking mine in I had to be very careful to make sure excess fabric/zipper pulls weren't wedged in the corners. If you have to push that hard I almost guarantee there's just a bit of something preventing it from happening.
     
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    It seems like the clearances should be the same on both sides or somethings askew. I don't think they would design it that way. The whole design is OCD. Could having the cushions in place on one side only creates a lack of clearance that forces it out of square. The 96" length can exert a lot of leverage, maybe permanently skewing it. Probably not a good idea to hang off of it.
    When I get mine, I'll probably remove the bedding before closing. Not a huge deal for me. I'll just stuff the down quilt or bag down below in a small net hammock or something.
    I would be interesting to see some other photos of units that have been out there for a while as well as some brand new units.
     
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  15. Dec 15, 2018 at 7:29 PM
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    He said Wiley stood on it. I bet he weighs more than a rotopax.
     
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  16. Dec 15, 2018 at 8:49 PM
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    Wiley stood on the camper rack on Instagram but I think he’s asking about the cantilever rack that sticks out over the cab.
     
  17. Dec 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM
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    I think I need to see the rack on a truck first for it to make more sense on how it looks.

    I do really like the solar panel rack design. Also like how it is on the tent portion so you can pop the tent in the angle of the sun. I kept thinking of adding it to a cab rack and making some ghetto prop.

    Stoked to see how the surfboard + the rack setup looks like.
     
  18. Dec 15, 2018 at 10:51 PM
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    Not quite how that works. You can flex the whole thing one way or another. You could have .0625" on both sides, or .125" on one side, and 0" on the other. The overall top width is not the same as the overall bottom width, and I think it's by design. I wish it was tighter, but if you're parked on an off camber site, the extra clearance helps a lot.
    I think (I hope) @pygmyowl just had a few things pop up that will be solved with time. Zipper/material overlap play into it a lot until the fabric remembers how it needs to fold. At least that was my personal experience.
    My current folding system will likely wear out the fabric quicker (crease in same spot = quicker wear), but it's super clean.
    Drop the top to the point where it will stay where it is, then push all the fabric on the back side "in" (red arrow below).
    Now push the sides in (black side arrows).
    Once that's done, you can continue to push the sides in until it's closed. I find with this way, it will "learn" how to fold itself in, and make it an even quick process.
    A caveat: Creasing the same area over and over will lead to earlier fabric failure. I never do this with my cuben fiber tent. I always roll that, and try to change up were I crease it over folds. However, a GFC has a few more fixed points than a tent, so it's a bit harder to randomize it (other than just shove it all in there however you want).
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  19. Dec 15, 2018 at 11:03 PM
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    I could be wrong, but I read that (above) as talking about the cantilevered rack.

    Now that I’m reading it again, he said “roof of an xl” so maybe he is talking about the extrusion as a cross bar, not as the cantilevered rack.
     
  20. Dec 16, 2018 at 5:50 AM
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    Were still testing the racks so I won’t give any hard numbers yet but it’s safe to say you could use the cantilever rack to hold a couple of full rotopaxes.

    An adjustable fairing for it is also in the works.
     
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