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hoverlover’s “there are many like it, but this one is mine” extra long title bs thread and build too

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by hoverlover, Apr 22, 2018.

  1. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:24 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    Maybe I'll work on that today. Boss just gave me the day off :yay:
     
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  2. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:25 AM
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    That’s badass never heard that. Hope they don’t come here for training the UAVs we have are enough to deal with.
     
  3. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:25 AM
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  4. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:26 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    You know it :thumbsup:
     
  5. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:28 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    Guess I should also replace that blown CV I've been putting off while I'm at it.

    Nah it'll be fine. Probably.
     
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  6. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:28 AM
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    :headbang:You going hard or smedium type stuff?
     
  7. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:28 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    Medium-hard

    Still gotta drive it home
     
  8. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    Bring spare just in case I have tools and some other spare parts I’m bringing.
     
  9. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    For sure, I think I've got two spares.
     
  10. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    :eek:We’ll see how froggy I’m feeling and how well traction out there is if it rains.
     
  11. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:37 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    Yep
    I'm thinking the same thing
    Just gonna wing it and see who goes where and does what and follow that group. Not trying to let the good idea fairy make me famous :rofl:

    https://youtu.be/-W2ITqESnXM
     
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  12. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:53 AM
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    :rofl: Now that hunting season is here it might be a little while. I get distracted by filling the freezer pretty easy, not to mention all the money I spend doing it.
     
  13. Sep 17, 2019 at 7:56 AM
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    :smack:Not smart

    Just had this fellar in the pattern making vape trails.:oldglory:

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  14. Sep 17, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    Haha I hear ya man. I need to put some dove in mine while I can.

    MmmmmmF18SuperHornetmmmm


    I'd steal one.
     
  15. Sep 17, 2019 at 8:19 AM
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    :rofl:I wouldn’t know how to start it let alone pilot it. Even a riding mower is complicated for me.:tinfoilhat:
     
  16. Sep 17, 2019 at 8:24 AM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    It's got FADEC, just follow the checklist!
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    Maybe just strap in real tight and pull the ejection seat handle o_O
     
  17. Sep 17, 2019 at 8:25 AM
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    I call it the YEET SEAT!!!
     
  18. Sep 17, 2019 at 8:46 AM
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  19. Sep 17, 2019 at 8:52 AM
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    I thought the F-35s were a massive clusterfuck and were prone to stalling.


    That video you posted of the heli crash... do you know what happened? Aside from some turbulence it all seemed good, then suddenly not good. Altimeter malfunction? Or just bad math on ground elevation? Aren't there instruments that tell you your elevation above ground?


    AND... Happy birthday man! :bananadance:
     
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  20. Sep 17, 2019 at 1:01 PM
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    hoverlover [OP] Never pet a burning dog.

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    Thanks, Ben!

    Nah, gotta look at the data, the F35 is a masterpiece of engineering.

    All aircraft have limitations, even fighters. The F35, like every other fighter ever, has a critical angle that will induce a stall. All aircraft, hell anything with wings, including helicopters, have a critical angle. The F35 is a brand new aircraft. Just like any new aircraft, a lot of limitations are discovered in testing. What caught the public's eye is the price tag, which is admittedly very high. Every news outlet that loves to scrutinize government, especially defense spending jumped all over that. What they don't tell you is that the F35 will maintain air superiority for the next 50+ years and it will require far fewer of them to do the same job. We're talking 1/4 the total manpower, firepower, and fleet.

    As for the video, I've gone over it dozens of times. It's a very unique accident because it caught on film a condition that type of helicopter can get in to that is usually fatal. It's tragic it went down the way it did and that the passengers suffered at the hands of an incompetent pilot. Had he done a proper weather assessment he would have seen that those conditions were to exist.

    The explanation isn't simple and has a lot of contributing factors, here goes

    Those weather conditions are not conducive to turbulence. In fact, quite the opposite. Those conditions mean little to no turbulence, very smooth, flat air. Aside from the shit visibility, it's actually great flying conditions. The accident was caused 100% by the pilot. He lost his spatial awareness and began to slowly lose control of the aircraft. We are vision based predators. Our eyes are both on the front of the skull and are very highly developed. Spatial awareness for a normal person is highly dependant on vision. Our eyes are the primary source for telling or brain our orientation to the world around us. In our middle ear, we also have a balance system, the vestibular system, that backs up what we see with what we feel. Any movement of our head is detected by organs inside our middle ears that instantaneously relay the information to the brain to interpret. The brain instantly uses that information combined with the information from our eyes to give our concious an understanding and reference of our orientation and any direction of movement. Take the vestibular system or our vision away and the brain has a hard time interpreting our body position. When we fly into clouds or fog we lose all visual reference as we can only see maybe a few feet outside the aircraft. There is training and a certificate for flying solely by reference to the instruments inside the aircraft, it is encouraged, but not a mandatory training. When we do that tour of training we have to wear special goggles or a hood that prevent the pilot from seeing anything other than the instruments in the cockpit. I don't get air sick. The first 5 hours made me sick as hell. Even around 20 hours in there were times when the gages were indicating straight and level flight but my whole body felt like I was doing a backflip. It's a very odd and disorienting sensation. The average lifespan of a pilot that accidently flies into those types of conditions is 178 seconds. It's not as simple as turn around and go back or just land. You could be in a nose-down all out dive and never know it until it's too late. That's what killed a Japanese F35 pilot recently.

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/...blames-spatial-disorientation-for-f-35-crash/

    I have gone over that video dozens of times, interpreting each instrument, the pilots' control inputs, the action of the helicopter and reaction of the occupants when he lost control. Minutes before the crash he had a low power setting, he begins a show descent, I'm assuming to find the ground below. Maybe to land, maybe so he can tell which way is up and down. His airspeed drops dangerously low. He begins a climb then realizes he has no airspeed. In the climb he begins to level, at the top of the climb he's pushing forward on the cyclic putting the helicopter in a low-g condition. The type of helicopter he is flying actually has special federal and manufacturer training regarding this. That type of helicopter (Robinson R44) cannot be put into a weightless condition without catastrophe. When the helicopter becomes weightless, or close to it, the trail rotor will spin the body of the helicopter at a rate of about 100* per second (that's why everyone gets tossed to one side) the main rotors remain level but the body rotates underneath. As it does it causes the main rotors to cut the tail off inducing a massive spin and then come through the front left seat. That's how and why the camera gets outside. If you play it frame by frame you can actually see part of the rotor coming through the cabin, when the camera is outside you can see one rotor is severely damaged, the tail boom is separating, and the front left side of the cockpit is cut clean open.

    Edit: sorry for the long post, but that's a multifaceted accident that requires a lot of interpretation. I kept it as short as I could
     
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