How bad is a stock TRD offroad?

That is annoying. I can lock the rear any time in my base model F350 XL.

 

So what's my Tundra then?

 

Get the OR and put TRD Pro badges on it. No one except us will notice and you get both.

If you are not using the Pro to its fullest extent it is wasted money IMO. Unless it has every option and color you want

 

Doood.
A great driver can take a Rav4 places a shitty driver can't get to with a Jeep Rubicon.
Seriously. Driver is 90% of a vehicle's capability.

 

A full-size

 

Liar. Some of us just make do with simple used 5 lugs. Too poor for the extra 4 lugnuts.

The tow capable vehicle that 80% of the people that come here need when asking if the trailer they want is too big for the Tacoma.

Oh. You mean like when an old stock powered Miata can spank Corvettes, Roush Mustangs and other much more expensive/powerful models at autocross? That's driver based? Never knew.

 

You get about $2-3K worth of upgrades with the Pro for an almost $10K markup. I didn’t even consider the Pro because there is no wiggle room on them, and I was able to haggle on the OR. I’m not a fan of faux hood scoops, especially on pickup trucks, but that’s just me. Side note, I absolutely hate the name “pro”. Everything is “pro” now. My toothpaste is “pro”. My dog’s food is “pro”. I literally have toilet paper in my bathroom that is labeled “Scott Pro” and it’s the shittiest TP I’ve ever bought.

 

I went into the dealer to order the Pro and I left with the OR, nuff said.

Good luck tomorrow with your choice, both are great I just liked the all black leather vs the red stitching.

 

I wanted the LB Pro as well, so I basically turned my fully optioned OR into one …

 

Yeah I just bought an OR, put a lift, scoop, wheels and bigger tires on it. Now I pull up beside a pro and they scratch their head.

 

I doubt that would be possible with the Rav4's OEM ground clearance and tires. One sample scenario that comes to mind is deep snow. Yes, even a Rubicon could get stuck in deep snow, but it will go much farther even in a straight line with a bad driver than an OEM Rav 4 with an expert driver.

 

Same here

 

Well I didn’t want to bring my gen 1 poverty pack in the convo

 

Now THAT is baller !!!

 

You apparently do not understand. Google Crown Vic in Moab. There are thousands of videos where kick ass drivers take shitty cars places normal drivers and bros fear to venture. I truly don't think you have met a good driver. I have and they are awesome. Saw a guy take a 1979 Olds Cutlass out past a stuck Jeep. You just think you need ground clearance when the good driver is looking for the better line that does not need it.

 

And deep snow is not offroad. Offroading is when you are going down a trail and have options.

 

I purchased a fully loaded OR which was only missing the shitty hood scoop, fox shocks and the exhaust otherwise my truck has everything the Pro has, but mines an DCLB. Plus I paid a shitload less then the Pro price and have added full RCI skids plus RCI sliders, custom grill many other small changes(driver side grab handle). I’m still way under the price they wanted for a Pro. Plus my truck does not bounce all over the place does have the nose dive at breaking tho.

 

A bit heavier spring (not longer) will fix that *breaking* problem.

 

The price of the PRO over the Off Road is not worth the suspension upgrade. The price of adding all those thing to the SR5 would bring it close to the price of the Off Road, and t still wouldn't have the extra creature comforts, nor the Crawl Control.

Hence the Off Road, is the best bang for the buck.

 

Yea I’m saving my pennies to switch out my shocks but who knows when I’ll even be able to get what I want.