1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

How do you get a wider stance on a 2nd gen taco?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by veet skeet, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. Sep 24, 2011 at 10:43 PM
    #1
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    Just like the title says. How do you get a wider stance on 2nd gen tacomas without the use of wheel spacers?

    I want to widen the stance of my truck, but I don't know how. What things do I have to do or get to widen my trucks stance? Thanks!
     
  2. Sep 24, 2011 at 10:45 PM
    #2
    S.B.

    S.B. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2009
    Member:
    #18838
    Messages:
    3,562
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Sean
    SD, CA Now in Colorado Springs, CO
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco 4x4 TRD OffRoad Rugged Trail
    SAW 2.0s, Wheeler's 3-leaf AAL, On Board Air, 255/85/16 Cooper Discover S/T, CBI Sliders, Built right UCAs, 6" Harbor Freight Lights (converted to HIDs), KC Slim Lights.
    Different backspacing on your wheels or you could go Long travel.:D
     
  3. Sep 24, 2011 at 10:48 PM
    #3
    senor taco

    senor taco ROLLIN ON RUST

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2009
    Member:
    #12330
    Messages:
    2,344
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Monterey Bay, Ca
    Vehicle:
    O7 Tacoma PreRunner SR5
    17in fj cruiser wheels satoshi grille with devil horns emblem Single in double out 50 series flowmaster with stainless tips Kenwod ddx512 double din touch screen DVD reciver with a single Rockford fosgate 12 in sub with an alpine amp tinted tail and third break light silverstar head and fog lights k&n drop in Billy 5100's on all 4 corners with a 2"AAL
  4. Sep 24, 2011 at 10:50 PM
    #4
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    What's the most backspacing you can get on your wheels for a tacoma?
     
  5. Sep 24, 2011 at 10:53 PM
    #5
    S.B.

    S.B. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2009
    Member:
    #18838
    Messages:
    3,562
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Sean
    SD, CA Now in Colorado Springs, CO
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco 4x4 TRD OffRoad Rugged Trail
    SAW 2.0s, Wheeler's 3-leaf AAL, On Board Air, 255/85/16 Cooper Discover S/T, CBI Sliders, Built right UCAs, 6" Harbor Freight Lights (converted to HIDs), KC Slim Lights.
    Idk. you could start rubbing you cab mount if you go to much, but idk where that point it.
     
  6. Sep 24, 2011 at 10:57 PM
    #6
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    Here's the setup I have right now.

    Bilstein 5100's all around. Front at 2.5'
    I don't have any lift in the back so the front is a little bit higher than the back, but I plan on getting a dealer TSB soon.

    Was thinking about running 285/70/17 but IDK how much it'll rub and how much I'd have to trim on the cab mount.
     
  7. Sep 25, 2011 at 10:35 AM
    #7
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    4.0 is about the limit on 2nd gens. You'll start rubbing on the outside of the tire if you go less than that.

    And to clarify, if you want a wider stance, you want less backspacing, not more.
     
  8. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:19 AM
    #8
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    So negative backspacing will give you more of a wider stance?
     
  9. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM
    #9
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    Negative backspacing would mean the rim mounting point is further out than the back of the rim....no such thing, at least on these trucks...some duallies might have that but :notsure:
     
  10. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:30 AM
    #10
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    Lemme try to get this straight haha.

    So if I wanted to get new wheels and tires for a wider stance, what offset would I have to get? +12? 0? -12?
     
  11. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM
    #11
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    -12 will stick out the most, but we also need to know the rims width to calculate backspacing, and the tire size, to see if they will fit.
     
  12. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:32 AM
    #12
    Blacktacoma23

    Blacktacoma23 The Dank Tank

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2011
    Member:
    #49366
    Messages:
    4,323
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    11' Mall Crawler
    Mall Crawlers dream. 6" BDS DB, Total chaos UCA's w/ Heims, Dirk King lowers, Fox c/o's, 4-banger fenders, 37" Nitto Mud Grapplers, 4.88 w/ rear ARB, AP Expos/wheel spacers front(1.5"), 17x10 Fuel Mavericks, cab mount relocation, "Insain fab" tub, 5%/30% tints, 2 10" Rockford Fosgates, Magnaflow 18" custom catback exhaust, AFE intake, JBA Long Tubes, URD o2 sims, Trail Gear bumper, Crown brake lines F/R
    ^ -12

    Edit: damn KPT is fast
     
  13. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:33 AM
    #13
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    I have this little chip in my head that dings when a wheel related question is posted

    :laugh:
     
  14. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:51 AM
    #14
    tacomtn

    tacomtn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Member:
    #57551
    Messages:
    976
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    TRD OR,OME,Deaver AAL
    I get confused with how backspacing and offset affect the overall wheel fit.

    Backspacing (inches) is the measurement from the back of the hub to the inner wheel rim, yes?

    Offset (mm) is the measurement of the hub offset from the exact center of the wheel, - or +, yes?

    Does the hub thickness play into these numbers for offset and backspacing?
     
  15. Sep 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM
    #15
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    Backspacing is the distance from the wheel mounting point to the back of the rim. Offset is the distance from the center of the rim to the wheel mounting point. So hub thickness affects both equally. One confusing thing is that "width" is not actually the width of the wheel, it's the distance between the bead seats. So the rim is actually about an inch wider than the advertised "width".
     
  16. Sep 25, 2011 at 12:47 PM
    #16
    tacomtn

    tacomtn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Member:
    #57551
    Messages:
    976
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    TRD OR,OME,Deaver AAL
    I'm looking at the Ultra Rouge wheels with these specs.

    17x8 4 7/8 BS +10 Offset 108 hub bore.

    Will this come too close to the UCAs or present other problems?
     
  17. Sep 25, 2011 at 12:50 PM
    #17
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    Oh okay gotcha. I was thinking of running this:

    I have 265/70/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers

    Either:

    17x9 Ballistic Jesters
    17x9 Revolvers

    Both I believe have rims that come in -12 offset.

    Would that make me have a wider stance?
     
  18. Sep 25, 2011 at 12:57 PM
    #18
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    What size tires?
    The LT or P- metric terra grapplers? The LTs aren't approved for 9" wide rims in that size.....too wide of a rim.

    Anyways, a 9" wide rim with -12 offset (4.5" bs), will stick out 2" more than your stock rims.
     
  19. Sep 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM
    #19
    veet skeet

    veet skeet [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61876
    Messages:
    1,009
    Gender:
    Male
    Cali
    Vehicle:
    14 4Runner Trail Edition MGM
    Bilstein 5100s, 17' Method NV Race Wheels, Goodyear Duratrac 265/70/17, Demello Sliders, Xenon/LEDs All Around, Dark Window Tint, Gobi Roof Rack (In the Mail), JL Audio Subs, Alpine Speakers and Amps
    I believe mine are the P-metrics. I am running TRD sport rims on em right now.
    So my tires would fit a 17x9 -12 offset rim?
     
  20. Sep 25, 2011 at 1:03 PM
    #20
    KPT

    KPT sees what you did there.

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Member:
    #22227
    Messages:
    32,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 Prerunner
    Katskin leather interior, Satoshi grille, Bilstein 5100's @ 1.75, rear leaf TSB, magnaflow exhaust, 18x9 BBS RW's, 275/65/18 Nitto TG's, black headlights, black taillights, Hella Supertones, weathertechs, EFX tri-fold tonneau, n-Fab steps
    According to the nitto website, yes.
     
To Top