1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

How many watts does a base model taco HU have?

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Marcus, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. Aug 9, 2012 at 8:41 PM
    #1
    Marcus

    Marcus [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Member:
    #84117
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    Redding, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 TRD Double Cab V6 4x4
    Pioneer 6965r 6x9's in the front Pioneer TSA1675 6.5's in the rear Kenwood Excleon Deck Kicker 200.4 Amp Dual RF Shallow mount Prime Subwoofers
    Looking to get a converter and run an amp, and would like a good idea of how many watts I will actually be amplifying. I considereed switching out the HU completly for just an overall aftermarket setup, but I Just bought the truck (2012) and don't really want to hack into the dash.

    So does anyone know? Base model HU for a 2012? Wattage? I can't find it anywhere. Help! Thanks in advance guys.
     
  2. Aug 9, 2012 at 8:42 PM
    #2
    whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2009
    Member:
    #27905
    Messages:
    35,266
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Christian
    Yorba Linda, CA
    Vehicle:
    10 MGM TRD OR 4wd Auto DCSB
    Banks Monster Exhaust, Pop n Lock tailgate lock, Hook-Ups tie down brackets, USA Spec Ipod adaptor, WO seat covers, color matched grill with Grillcraft insert, Tuffy locking bed box
    Maybe 10 per channel. It isn't much at all.
     
  3. Aug 9, 2012 at 8:48 PM
    #3
    Rich91710

    Rich91710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2012
    Member:
    #73470
    Messages:
    16,496
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    08 Base
    Satoshi with FJ badge, factory cruise, factory intermittent wipers, Redline Tuning hood-lift struts, Hellwig Swaybar, Rosen DVD-Nav
    Just swap it out.

    There are conversion kits for the 2012 dash... no hacking required, it's plug and play and you'll be done and listening in 20 minutes or less.

    Base model HU's problem is not wattage... well... yes, that's part of it... but the bigger problem is the EQ is set to avoid blowing up the shit speakers that Toyota graced us with.

    I'm attaching a photo of the stock speaker... but remember that the problem with the sound is the HU. An aftermarket HU will make these speakers sound pretty damned good, right up to the point that they toast.
    Alternatively, I installed a set of Polks in my RC base and they sounded no better than stock until I went aftermarket.

    stockrc.jpg
     
  4. Aug 9, 2012 at 8:50 PM
    #4
    rcbs204

    rcbs204 Well-Known Member Vendor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Member:
    #23681
    Messages:
    3,765
    Gender:
    Male

    Wow, look at the magnet on that sucker!!
     
  5. Aug 9, 2012 at 8:52 PM
    #5
    Rich91710

    Rich91710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2012
    Member:
    #73470
    Messages:
    16,496
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    08 Base
    Satoshi with FJ badge, factory cruise, factory intermittent wipers, Redline Tuning hood-lift struts, Hellwig Swaybar, Rosen DVD-Nav
    The tweeter can lift the main speaker.
    The main speaker can not lift the tweeter.
     
  6. Aug 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM
    #6
    Marcus

    Marcus [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Member:
    #84117
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    Redding, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 TRD Double Cab V6 4x4
    Pioneer 6965r 6x9's in the front Pioneer TSA1675 6.5's in the rear Kenwood Excleon Deck Kicker 200.4 Amp Dual RF Shallow mount Prime Subwoofers
    To make better sound without hacking into the dash? My dash is so sexy all new! The truck has 1100 miles...... So now way around it eh?
     
  7. Aug 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM
    #7
    Rich91710

    Rich91710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2012
    Member:
    #73470
    Messages:
    16,496
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    08 Base
    Satoshi with FJ badge, factory cruise, factory intermittent wipers, Redline Tuning hood-lift struts, Hellwig Swaybar, Rosen DVD-Nav
    You're not hacking into the dash.
    You simply remove the stock HU and replace it with an adapter kit that looks like it came from the factory, and it contains an aftermarket HU.
    Wiring is plug and play with the proper adapters.

    It's literally a half hour job.

    You're doing FAR more hacking by attempting to install an amplifier between the pathetic stock HU and the speakers.... which will not survive on the amp.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM
    #8
    MontanaTaco

    MontanaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Member:
    #33941
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Colter
    Bozeman,MT
    Vehicle:
    4x4 08 Trd Sport
    OME lift
    I know this is a bit off topic but anyone heard of blowing a speaker by not putting enough power to it? I put two alpine type r 6x9's in the front and now one is all distorted. There is no way the stock blew it up so I'm thinking it was from lack of power.
     
  9. Aug 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM
    #9
    Aw9d

    Aw9d That one guy

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    Member:
    #66635
    Messages:
    11,674
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes you can blow speakers from under powering them.

    Alpine Type R's require a hell of a lot more power than what the stock head unit dishes out. I push a clean 80watts to my Type-R's, I think the stock deck does about 10watts.
     
  10. Aug 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM
    #10
    Rich91710

    Rich91710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2012
    Member:
    #73470
    Messages:
    16,496
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    08 Base
    Satoshi with FJ badge, factory cruise, factory intermittent wipers, Redline Tuning hood-lift struts, Hellwig Swaybar, Rosen DVD-Nav
    Yup.

    What happens is you get a high-powered speaker, but it is not as efficient as the lower powered speaker. On a weaker amp, you end up having to turn the volume up to drive the speaker.

    If you push the amp into clipping, it is generating heat in the voice coil, same as if you overdrive a low-wattage speaker. During the "flat" or "slipped" part of the audio wave, the speaker is seeing straight DC and generating a lot of heat.

    I've watched bass players blow the speakers in a bass amp in 30 seconds by running a "fuzz box"
     
  11. Aug 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM
    #11
    MontanaTaco

    MontanaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Member:
    #33941
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Colter
    Bozeman,MT
    Vehicle:
    4x4 08 Trd Sport
    OME lift
    Wow never would have thought that could happen. Anyone know a good amp to power them?
     
  12. Aug 14, 2012 at 1:48 PM
    #12
    Aw9d

    Aw9d That one guy

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    Member:
    #66635
    Messages:
    11,674
    Gender:
    Male
    Alpine amps are good for the money. Rockford T line is really nice, not so much for their other stuff.
     
  13. Aug 14, 2012 at 4:55 PM
    #13
    MontanaTaco

    MontanaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Member:
    #33941
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Colter
    Bozeman,MT
    Vehicle:
    4x4 08 Trd Sport
    OME lift
    Well I've been looking at the JL audio jx360/4 amp with JL's 6x9 speakers for the front. Anyone heard anything about them?

    Edit: May look into components
     
  14. Aug 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM
    #14
    D44boy

    D44boy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Member:
    #82003
    Messages:
    164
    Gender:
    Male
    Kaneohe, hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2011 prerunner double cab
    are there any head units that can utilize the factory ipod jack? I dont want to have to run a separate included cord to like the glove box or anything, and then just have the factory jack just there and be wasted.
     
  15. Aug 15, 2012 at 4:32 PM
    #15
    Aw9d

    Aw9d That one guy

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    Member:
    #66635
    Messages:
    11,674
    Gender:
    Male
    JL's are great, but over priced. tons of other brands out there that do just is good, if not better for cheaper.
     
To Top