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How much lift for 33’s no trimming?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by bear taco, May 27, 2023.

  1. May 27, 2023 at 6:22 AM
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    I’m sure this question has been asked 1,000’s of times, but yea, I’m not going to spend hours searching. How much lift is needed to run 33’s on a Gen 1 Tacoma without having to rim anything? Thanks!
     
  2. May 27, 2023 at 6:25 AM
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    You should be able to fit 255s (skinny 33s) depending on your backspacing. A 1-2” lift couldn’t hurt, but that doesn’t always guarantee they’ll fit either. You’ll probably still get a bit of rubbing at full lock. I ended up going with 255/75/17 (skinny 32s) and they just barely run at full lock, but my wheels also have terrible backspacing.
     
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  3. May 27, 2023 at 7:09 AM
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    There’s no way to run 33s without trimming anything.
     
  4. May 27, 2023 at 7:11 AM
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  5. May 27, 2023 at 8:00 AM
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    I know you're looking for an easy answer without doing any searching, and that others have given it to you (ie, you can't fit 33s without trimming) but here is a great article that should give you a better understanding of WHY: https://adventuretaco.com/guide/what-size-tires-fit-my-lifted-tacoma/#

    If you're dead set on running 33s, I suggest a 1.5" lift (Bilstien 5100s, or whatever aftermarket coilover of choice) plus a 1" body lift. The modest body lift will help avoid the worst of the trimming. Most folks put body lifts in the same category as spacer lifts (complete garbage) but IMO it all depends. I think a 1" BL to avoid trimming is an acceptable tradeoff. It also has some advantages- mainly that anything you need to do where you're squeezing your hands through (like in the wheel wells to get to control arm bolts, or even exhaust manifold bolts, starters, etc..) gets easier. It also makes it a ton easier to do a rear shock relocation, because you can more easily add a new cross member above the frame rails and get more travel. If you wanna do high speed mega hucks in the sand then a body lift is probably not the right move.
     
  6. May 27, 2023 at 8:43 PM
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    37s or larger - Seriously. Stop it. If you're reading this article to figure out how to put 37s or larger on your Tacoma, you aren't ready yet. Go drive your truck off-road for a few years first, instead.

    I died here reading that article:rofl:
     
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  7. May 28, 2023 at 5:32 AM
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    Perhaps I should have given a bit more context. It’s my sons dream to have a lifted Tacoma and nothing is more important in his 16 year old life right now with the exception of well….. I never had or got shit growing up and just want for him to have a “W”. I hope he won’t off road the truck, but I know he will. I want to be meet his intent having the lift while ensuring it’s as safe as can be for him without breaking the bank.
     
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    Lift it 1-2” with an inexpensive Bilstein 5100 setup, put 32s on it, trim/hammer the pinch weld in the back of the front fender, and buy him a bunch of gas.
     
  9. May 28, 2023 at 6:15 AM
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    Bilstein 5100s, 32s = lots of fun for a teenager without breaking the bank. Get him a decent set of tools and teach him how to wrench on his own truck.
     
  10. May 28, 2023 at 7:10 AM
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    Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule of being a douche to comment. Isn’t the point of forums to share information? If this isn’t something you are okay with doing that is fine, but no need to go out of your way to be an asshole (your words not mine). It’s a surprise for my kid so researching with him would kind of ruin that yea? How presumptuous of you to determine with zero knowledge that I haven’t already taught my son to be self sufficient. If I wanted parenting advice I probably would have asked for it (in a different forum of course), hope you have a great day douche monkey.

    For those of you that took a moment of your day to provide me good feedback, seriously thank you, it’s much appreciated.
     
  11. May 28, 2023 at 10:57 AM
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    I agree with those suggesting a mild 1-2” lift and 32s: I’d particularly recommend 255/75/17 or the 15/16” equivalent. You may not even have to bother trimming at all with that setup. It will be easier on the IFS than heavy 285s too. Even my old 98 on 31s was very capable on trails.

    Also, make sure the IFS is in good shape (especially the lower ball joints) before even thinking about lifts and tires for your son.
     
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    I agree completely. The general consensus is that you need a 3 inch lift. This deserves a little more explaining though because the rear of the truck is higher than the front, and since the wheels don’t turn there’s less to rub. A “3 inch” lift will usually mean raising the front 3 inches and the back around 2.25-2.5. Im happy to share this info with you because I’m going through the same process of lifting my truck because well, im 17 and just like you son probably will I love to drive my truck like a truck. For me the main motive is im doing this to get mud terrains to help with traction (im a prerunner so only rwd not 4x4). And the previous owner also had street tires.

    Im and going a little bit further than you probably will by getting shocks AND new coils/leafs. If you wanna do the exact same as me, one of my threads is called 3 inch lift or something and is a write up of what I’m going to be buying this summer. I haven’t done it get bc well I’m 17 and and not made of money but if all goes well I’ll tag you later this summer if I save enough to lift my truck.

    good luck and props to you for giving your son a good truck. I’ve loved mine and it was worth every hour I worked my rear off for. I suggest drive it as it is and improve on its weak points. I have found I need new tires bc I keep getting stuck haha. good luck!
    (Fyi the skinnier the tires the easier it’ll be to fit)
     
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  14. May 28, 2023 at 10:03 PM
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    Man. Maybe take some time off from the forums if this is just how you're going to treat people? All you've done is attack the OP. Pretty hard to take you seriously when you're preaching sharing knowledge on one hand and being a complete dick on the other.
     
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    I agree with you, but I do understand what set him off. Not willing to do any searching is one thing. Telling a whole forum you’re not going to do any searching is kind of bad juju. I really don’t think the OP is a bad guy, probably just overwhelmed and like he pointed out, yes, we are here to share what we know. It’s what we do. Well, most of us. Haha! Okay, I’ll get off my soap box now. Btw OP, modding trucks is kind of a rabbit hole with no end in sight for some of us! Good luck!! Hell of a beginning, but welcome to TW. It’ll get better.
     
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    Lift is only of part of the equation, and not even the most impactful. The other 2 parts are wheel offset and tire width. A 4th factor is alignment, but I'm not a fan tweaking alignment just to fit a tire, personally. Skinny tires will be less prone to rubbing, and wheel offsets that position your tire in the center between outermost rub points will be less prone as well.

    I have 33s and I have -12 offset and wide tires with a 2.5" lift. So for me, cab mount chop and hammered pinch welds got me clear from any rubbing.
     
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    I run 33x12.5x15 on mine. I run 2.5 front lift (until I blow a uvjoint) and 3.5 rear (cause tools are heavy). 4Wheeler called after putting the tires on and told me about the bumper and pinch welds which I knew had to be done. I told them I'm hopping on my bicycle and if it's done I'll pay the 40 bucks or I had already planed to do it myself. They got it done.
    Everything fine in the mountain trails where you go slow but as soon as I went to Oceana Dunes in Cali doing 30+/- mph I cut my fenders and installed the bushwackers. I was also concerned about throwing mud and rocks as I have worked in some mud pits before so I had been looking at fender flares since before I lifted it.
    the front passenger side
     
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  18. May 29, 2023 at 7:59 PM
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    It looks good! Nice job. Now take some black undercoating to cover that up and blend it all in and you won’t even notice it.
     
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    Update….. after the comments here and a little more research I decided to go with the bilstein 3” lift from toytech. The truck has 31’s on it now, I’m going to wait and see how that looks and go from there. If I do decide to get bigger tires I will keep them skinny and only go as big as possible without having to trim. So probably only 32’s. Once I get it done I’ll post before and after pictures. I really do appreciate all the feedback and help!!
     
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