How much pulling force without damage?

I'm going to try to pull out a tree stump with a chain.

Plan to hook one end of the chain to the tree stump, and the other end to the tow hook under the front bumper. Then reverse in 4wd.

How much pulling force can I put on it without risk to damaging anything -- like the frame that the tow hook is attached to, for example?

Please note that I'm not asking about towing limit. Because I'm assuming that's a different issue? I have a 2013 tacoma with 4cyl and 4wd, it does not have a trailer hitch.

Thanks!

 

Use a wheel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00MQHfLTKq8

Pull forward, not in reverse. Backside of the axle gears aren't as strong.


And if you can't get it after a couple of pulls, find a different way to do it.


How do you plan to measure pulling force? I Don't think anyone will have a number for that.

 

You just reminded me of a few years ago I had a dead limb in a tree in my front yard. I said no problem I will just pull it down with my truck. I climbed the tree and tied a big rope to the limb and tied the other end to my trailer hitch. Four low and slowly started pulling but the limb won. My back tires were a foot off the ground and pulling with my front. Gave up and went and got my chainsaw. I have pulled up many a stump though. Some from the front and some from the rear and never damaged anything. Just be smart about it and it helps to dig around it first and cut as many roots as you can.

 

X2 on using a wheel (I use my spare tire w/ a 3" strap).

I'd also suggest if you're using a chain around the stump, also use some clothes line or other 1/4" - 3/8" cordage anchored to the tire or some fixed object as a safety strap. That way if the chain or stump or anything else gives out, it doesn't go flying.

 

Yeah .... the thought about reverse being weaker than forward had occurred to me. Thanks. But then I blocked it out of mind because that seems like a show stopper? I can't find anything to hook to on the back? Is there any good place?

I'm planning to buy a hook or fastener with a rated tensile strength maximum which is significantly below the maximum-damage-free-force that the truck can handle. If I exceed the force, then the hook or fastener will fail, first (assuming that I increase the force gradually and don't pound on it). Think of it like an electrical fuse. My truck is old, but it's still worth enough that I don't want to be an idiot about this.

As far as a good number, I'm thinking about doing the calculations of how much force would be required to pull the truck out of a ditch. To assume that the hook and frame attachment should be able to handle that, seems reasonable. But the math would be annoying to have to figure cause it's been decades since I've done any math. And, I'm lazy. If I was 21 years old back at the university, I'd have it figured out in less than 5 minutes. But not now! Gads, I'm old! Was hopeful someone already knows.

 

Please video it and share here

 

DONT ! you don't have a 1 ton truck,you have a little truck with a sheet metal thin frame.

 

i was told to pull ALWAYS going forward. something about the pinion gear being stronger in that direction.

 

Way overthinking this. What ever happened to HEY YALL WATCH THIS...

 

This is the only things that comes to mind when I hear “I’m gonna pull out this tree stump with my truck”

https://youtu.be/3ISgFgxmxMc

A stump grinder would be way better.

 

how big is this target stump? is it cut really low to the ground?

 

I'm digging now. If nothing else, it's good exercise. Do plan on cutting roots, cause it's a big stump. I'm digging pretty deep. If all fails, I'll take a chain saw to it as low as I can cut it down in the hole. Then backfill. But I'd like to get it out so don't have to deal with settling or issues with planting something new. Good times!

edit: also with chain saws I'm a big freaking baby. I only use them when I absolutely must.

 

I don't want to say how big it is because you'll call me an idiot and tell me to forget it. It's cut a good 3 to 4 feet above ground, purposefully so an excavator can wrench it out. But that didn't happen for reasons.

 

Your gonna need more beer...

 

LET HIM DO IT!

 

I love it!!! More beer! More exercise!! More digging! More beer! More exercise ... seriously, this plan is looking better.

 

Hell if I was your neighbor I would help ya for a few cold ones...

 

LOLOL! That's hilarious! The guy basically got a ground stump -- a flat stump flush with the ground! Did you notice how it broke? This is one reason I like using a chain. Using really strong rubber bands is asking for trouble!!

 

cutting roots is the best arguement for buying a carbide tooth chain. i notice very little mud will dull the regular chain instantly.

and seriously. pull going forward.

 

no..
pulled out a relatively big stump with a chevy 4x4 S10 hahaha.. it was much harder than i thought (to do)