How to Install a Viper 5704 Alarm/ Remote Start

also, does anybody have a problem with the remote start not starting the truck on the first attempt? i know it will try again, but is there a way to give it a lil more juice, because i just tried to start it this morning, and when the engine is cold (not temp outside) it takes just a tad more to start it

 

Anyone have issues with tilt or shock sensors on the 5704v. The shock sensor worked fine at first, but now I cannot get the alarm to chirp or go off when there is a shock to the vehicle. Also, jacked the vehicle up and took the wheels off while the unit was armed and got nothing.

Is there a way to test the sensors to ensure they work?

 

I had trouble finding the door trigger wires too. But with patience and a multimeter I was able to find them. If you feel like rewriting that part I can try to help you out.

I have the glass and tilt sensors too. The placement of the glass break sensor can make a big difference. For instance, it will work better in a higher location that's open to the cab of your truck than hurried behind the glove box or under a seat. It's also adjustable. So you can adjust its sensitivity by turning the knob on the sensor itself. I found that putting my keys in a glass jar was a good way to duplicate the frequencies the glass break sensor listened for. When you do the fine tuning, stuff a rag in the horn for the alarm. It helps your ears as well as your neighbors' ears.

 

Does it take longer to start with the remote than it does if you were to just start it with the key?

 

When the alarm should be triggered, is the remote signaling the alarm has been triggered?

I have two thoughts about the shock sensor. First, maybe there was a loose wire that finally came undone. Second, you may have inadvertently turned off that sensor. It's possible to turn of the sensors using your remote. Do you still have the paper work explaining how to set up the system (i.e. the instructions that say to push the button on the thing in your truck with the flashing light)? If the tilt sensor also isn't working, I'm leaning more towards you accidentally turning off the sensors.

The best way I know to test the tilt sensor is to tilt it by hand. What I mean by that is to put the tilt sensor in your hand while still wired to the system and tilt it. The tilt sensor I have is kind of adjustable. There are two wires that loop in and out of the tilt sensor. Leaving these intact is the A setting. Cutting one of the wires is the B setting, and cutting the other wire is the C setting. The A, B, and C settings correspond to degrees of tilt. I just can't remember off hand what those degrees are. If you still have the paper work that came with the tilt sensor, that info is in there.

And the best way to test the shock sensor is to tap on the sensor itself. It has an adjustment knob on it, so once you verify that it's working you can go back to hitting your truck for the fine tuning.

 

I appreciate that feedback. I did not install the alarm system and need to get with the installer on these issues, just trying to find information to possibly feed him from people that have experience with this particular issue on the Tacoma. I am not the greatest with wiring and electronics, but I can certainly test the sensors via the method you suggested. Thank you!

 

Gotcha. Good luck on getting everything taken care of.

 

thank you for the offer about finding the door wires, I think the door ajar actually works great, because any door will trigger it, and no need for the diodes.

good suggestion about the rag in the horn, i'll do that for sure

I have my mic in the same hole where there should be the 4x4 switch, so it's pretty centrally located and high up, the module is under the dash though, that shouldn't make a difference right? as long as the mic is positioned well

i'm honestly not positive, I don't think so, I just think it doesn't crank it long enough, I tried to contact viper support, but they only address you to authorized dealers, so they told me that you can hardwire a wire to the tach, or increase the cranking time (which is the route i'm gonna try to take)

 

back like 10 years ago, I had a directed electronics unit, rattler 369D that was a remote start and keyless entry, and I remember you could program the unit to keep cranking until the engine reaches a certain rpm, and that solved that issue, supposedly these new units aren't programmed to do the same, so I think the hardwire issue can fix that

 

The position of your mic is about where I have mine. So it's probably just a tuning issue. It makes no difference where the module is.

On our alarms, there's a Tach wire that senses RPMs and kind of controls crank time. By default, it's on a certain setting. It needs to be changed to another setting for our trucks. I can't remember exactly what that setting is right now, but I'll look it up when I get home. The installer probably set it up the way that it should be, but it's still worth double checking. There are also other settings I believe affect the starting of the vehicle, but again, I'll have to look those up when I get home later today.

 

thanks

 

Okay nammer, I'm home now and I'm looking at a bunch of stuff. Do you know how run through the menus on the system by pushing the button on the receiver (the thing with the blinking light)? If you don't, you can get the instructions from the first post of this thread at the bottom of that first post. The instructions are in the file named "Viper_5704_Installation_Guide.pdf." Then go to page 11 of that pdf. It has the instructions on how to program system features.

Then you'll want to play around with the features on page 16 (Menu 3 - Remote Start). Specifically Menu Items 2 and 3. You'll probably have a few more questions so feel free to ask me.

The programing may seem daunting because of the process, but its actually not that bad once you do it a couple of times. Its just a weird process. You can do this. You don't need to take it to the installer. Also, check out the last two pages of that pdf. They're the troubleshooting pages for the remote start.

 

cool thanks riverdog, yea i don't want to bring it back to him cause it's about an hr drive, i did call him to let him know my problem, so he knows it's a concern of mine immediately after install, cause it happened at the shop when the truck was sitting for a few hrs, thanks again riverdog, i'll holla if I have any issues

 

i also jacked the truck up on rear pumpkin high enough to get the tires off the ground, tilt sensor did not go off, I took riverdog's advice about moving the tilt sensor, and it does set off the alarm, so i know it's activated, but i think it requires a much greater degree than stealing tires, maybe it will notify u of a tow truck, just my findings, my installer said that sensor worked great in the cars he's done

 

Sounds good. Just make sure that your system is set to Tachometer mode (Menu 3, Menu Item 2, Option 4). You can disregard my comment about cranking time as it doesn't matter when the system is set to Tachometer mode.

 

So I was kind of wrong about cutting the wires on the tilt sensor. Below are the directions for it from the instruction guide. When I used a jack to test the tilt sensor, I lifted up my truck from the side just behind the front tire and it triggered the alarm.


The unit has 2 wire loops (one WHITE and the other BLACK) for setting both the tilt threshold and the arming
delay. The 2 wire loops are located on the side of the sensor next to the harness plug.

TILT SENSITIVITY THRESHOLD
The BLACK loop controls the tilt sensitivity threshold that detects when the vehicle is being lifted. A 1-degree threshold is the default setting for extreme sensitivity. If the BLACK loop is cut, then a 3-degree threshold is selected
for normal sensitivity.

ARMING DELAY
The WHITE loop sets the amount of time the sensor waits before it will become active. A 10-second delay is thedefault setting. If the WHITE loop is cut, then a 2-minute delay is selected before becoming active.

So by cutting the black wire, it becomes less sensitive.

 

1 degree? 3 degrees? damn, it feels like it's 15 before mine goes off, i'll play around with it tomorrow

 

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I had to get my truck higher than what I thought was one degree for the alarm to be triggered. However, it would still go off if someone was trying to seal my wheels or tow my truck.

 

Well I pulled the dash apart and tested the tilt and shock sensor and neither are working at all it seems so there must be wiring issues. I will get with the installer and hopefully get it all sorted out.

Thanks again for the insights, much appreciated.

 

so i'm outside fiddling with the alarm, i'm really really disappointed in the sensitivity of the tilt sensor and the shock sensor, they def work, but the tilt sensor def needs to be moved much much greater than 1 or 3 degrees, and the shock with the sensitivity turned all the way up, i can swing the unit, and bang on the car, and it'll hardly set it off, it really has to be shock though, not movement, because if you swing the sensor back and forth, it won't set it off, or bounce on the back of the truck, are my sensors defective or are everybody's like that?