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How to prove a skeptic wrong...

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Tacoyota, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. Nov 16, 2009 at 6:17 AM
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    Tacoyota

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    First off , yes, this is "just another filter thread", so leave if you want:p.

    After months of reading blah blah this and gyuck gyuck that about Afe and K&N air filters, I did something about it. I'm often the skeptic, and only 1 real way to be knowledgeable about what you say... try it.

    I had 3 after market air filters on other rigs, 1 my dad's, only 1 seemed to work. So my last 2 trucks I went PFFT why bother, I'll keep my money.

    I figured on a different truck, you can't always apply previous knowledge so i bought an Afe Pro Dry-s from Auto Anything, they did a great job on shipping. Idropped the filter in Friday and drove Sat /sun / today.... simply put there is no doubt the throttle responds better, it lugs less when i turn in 2nd gear, and it accelerates better, and I can almost dump the clutch w/o killing the engine. I BOUGHT THE THING to prove nothing would be different, but would have a lifetime filter!!

    I don't know the mpg shift, Im going home at Thanksgiving, but with the weather the actual mpg wont be too accurate. If you have the 4 cylinder though it looks like $35 well spent , and I apologize for being a cynic and accusing some of you of blah blah.:eek:
     
  2. Nov 16, 2009 at 6:42 AM
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    What about the sound - is it louder?
     
  3. Nov 16, 2009 at 8:06 AM
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  4. Nov 16, 2009 at 8:12 AM
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    dont some people get a little whistle with it?

    and to the op did you remove the secondary charcoal filter? it helps us get air a little quicker i believe
     
  5. Nov 16, 2009 at 8:12 AM
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    I went from a stock paper to a K&N to a Prodry, and the AFE is definitely the best of the three. I definitely noticed and increase in throttle response and general drivability between the KN and AFE, and no oil!
     
  6. Nov 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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    no to the louder, sounds the same, yes to the charcoal filter is pulled... the fender elbow mod done too.
     
  7. Nov 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM
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    Any objective proof the throttle responds better?

    Because honestly, that's about the only kind that matters.
     
  8. Nov 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM
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    No, I did not put it on a dyno, but I am able to compare back to back driving experiences. For 2 weeks I had both the K&N and the AFE and would put them in back to back and drive the same routes. The AFE "felt" better every time. I wasn't trying to make myself feel better about one over the other, since I owned both, so I wasn't tricking myself into justifying the expense. Nobody has to believe me, and no, I don't work for AFE, not even close. I just wanted to put it out there that I used both at the same time, and for my particular truck at least the AFE was the better choice.
     
  9. Nov 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM
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    I didnt think the throttle would go up quicker, just hoped the filter will yield better fuel economy. The first thing I noticed driving is that it responded a bit faster.

    Objective, not really, not by a standard using test equipment, and I agree to wanting proof, I am a skeptic on the aftermarket claims and such. But it did surprise me to see the tach go up quicker, and if you are wondering i didnt drive it to test it , just drove like I normally would.
    What could be objective is when I turn onto the next street in 2nd gear it tends to lug the engine a bit, its at 1000-1200 rpm.... shifting into 1st doesnt go well with these 5 speeds, it certainly does lug a lot less on those turns.
     
  10. Nov 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM
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    Even if you don't get any power, you will get improved throttle responce with a high flow filter, which is VERY needed on our trucks. Some people seem to think they feel sluggish driving around town, but its more because the thing is a little laggy imo.

    I removed the secondary filter (unlike what some have said, my second filter was thick and obviously restrictive, very noticable when blowing through it) and put a high flow filter with a Dynamax high flow muffler and you can't even tell it's drive-by-wire now. Very responsive.

    The engine didn't sound any different to me from just the air filter, but I do get a "whoosh" type sucking sound with a quick rev when stopped now that I like.
     
  11. Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM
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    I couldnt tell the difference in power when I pulled the elbow in the fender, and the 2ndary (pulled the same time).My mpg went up 2 points between those 2 combined with 40 psi in the tires, and synthetic lubes.
    Which is why I was surprised when that filter alone made a difference I could see.
    I like quiet so I doubt I'll swap the muffler, but I'm gonna do the DT header eventually.
     
  12. Nov 18, 2009 at 3:40 AM
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    I took my secondary filter out about 2 weeks before I got my AFE filter. With the secondary filter removed and the oem filter i got 2 more mpg. When I put in the AFE I lost the 2 mpg but picked up throttle responce
     
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