Hybrids only thread.

Now… the tune people will be doing some interesting shit with the hybrid I assume .. but I don’t think I feel comfortable fucking with a 4 cylinder turbo hybrid, especially since it gives me all the power I need or want.

Unrelated - what tires are folks running and how has that impacted your speedometer / fuel economy

 

Driving my pro for the last few months I was taking it easy for the first 1600km following the break in. The torque and power felt monstrous using only small amounts of throttle during that period. Then the day came to floor it in sport mode after the break in and I was disappointed with the hybrid system shutting off and the wastegate seemingly dumping the boost at high throttle. I find using about half throttle and then steadily pushing the gas peddle feels faster to me. Any auto reviewer I’ve watched who slams the gas to the floor from a stop in a Tacoma hybrid is not usually impressed but like Sheldon said, they dialed back the performance to keep the tires from spinning and the drivetrain from taking too much abuse from all the torque.

 

You nailed it. On the head. You said it better than I did. In a ford ecoboost, they let it rip. And our trucks have similar torque. Do you think it’s more about safety? We have massive diffs on these trucks. I have to say I’m tempted to get a tune to fix that but I know it’s not a great idea.

 

Not if they still wanted payload, terrain capability, and towing capacity. To get the shit aeros of that truck to 30 MPG it'd have to be lowered and packing a big enough batter setup that you're basically in a Rav4 with a bed. The lower stance would screw the off road image of the Taco and the weight of the battery setup to provide enough juice for that would eat the payload rating enough that you would have to reduce the tow rating right along side it.

 

I love my hybrid. I think Toyota should of created two different hybrid tunes though. The TRD Sport should have an MPG focused hybrid and the Offroad/Pro/TH should be torque and offroad focused. I think this would of satisfied almost everyone.

For me, when im on base or anywhere thats 25-35mph speed zone i find i can ease the accelerator off and get up to 30 using just battery. It requires a flat terrain and very minimal throttle changes but when it works i feel like im in the future.

 

It's not the tune. It's battery capacity.





Compared to an MPG focused hybrid system.

 

My brothers tundra pro rips hard as well without as much cutout at high throttle. Maybe toyota knew the Tacoma powertrain could easily make this lighter truck faster and didn’t want to knock the already sales hurt tundra as a slower truck.
I’ve spun the tires in eco mode from a stop with warm tires a few times so I can imagine its safety as well as longevity. I’m sure a mild tune could easily gain more power and torque in the mid and high range without much longevity issues. As for low end punch this truck doesn’t need anymore imo!

 

damn where is the RAV hiding the battery that holds 10x. The Tacoma battery is already huge.

 

I think the Limited have some Sport S mode that tunes things up a bit. I'm wishing it had an extreme eco mode which let me let off the gas and coast just a little further on the electric engine's dime. My wife's Prius (and I know, apples to oranges) coasts whenever you let off the gas and it is more seamless. I find this to be a harder vehicle to stay at the same speed in. It loves to accelerate, but between the turbo and the electric the pedal is too touchy sometimes even in Evo mode.

Best I can get on my longbed TH is 20 mpg if I watch the fuel economy like a hawk. 15 sometimes when I'm just driving.

 

my dash registered 21mpg and i was happy until i did the math at the pump and realized it was really 17.5

 

Agree it’s sufficient but why have the torque and not use it all? Also, I’d only want a bump to compensate for larger tires when I decide to swap mine out.

 

Big numbers on a spec sheet sell product.

 

Well, if it actually has that much torque it probably is useful in various load situations other then off the line where there’s no risk of drivetrain damage - like popping 60-80 mph which it can do effortlessly

 

It's basically flattened out across the floor area. Likely not possibly on the Taco because it's not unibody and it's rear wheel drive. There's no frame rails to restrict the battery on the Rav4, plus the Taco drive shaft angle would be an issue. People really need to stop trying to look at other Toyota hybrids and thinking that the truck hybrids are even remotely relatable to them. It's not even apples to oranges. It's apples to ribeyes.

 

For those with hybrids (all of you), do you experience what I would call micro-shudders on occasion when you’re coming to a stop? Hard to describe - kind of like 2-3 tiny vibrations. It’s really subtle and to me it does not feel like a problem, but everyone is telling me it’s a transmission issue. The Tundra hybrid forums all say it’s regenerative braking and I think people are conflating that with the transmission issues many folks are having. The transmission is smooth so far and no other issues. I am not even sure this is an issue just something I noticed. I wouldn’t even think about it if it weren’t for the transmission debacle many have experienced.

 

no i def notice it too, and my vin wasnt on the recall list so it shouldnt be any transmission issues. I assumed it was something to due with the engine cutting off and battery taking over...

On the subject of braking idk if its just a hybrid thing with regen but i noticed you really have to put some force on the pedal to get to a complete stop.

 

YES

my build date is Aug 6, 2024 btw

 

Our trucks have same birthday lol

 

ive almost tapped a few bumpers at stop lights adjusting to this braking system.

 

Thought it was my imagination .. it kind of creeps forward sometimes