Hybrids only thread.

You're comparing a mild hybrid to a plug in hybrid, not a fair comparison.

The standard Rav4 hybrid has a similar size battery as the Taco, and it's just under the back seat.

The mpg difference is in the motor tune and drivetrain efficiency, and the vehicle weight / aerodynamics.

 

I don't compare them at all, but I've seen others say they want the prime power pack in the tundra/tacoma. I don't want a hybrid so I don't have a dog in the fight.

 

I, for one, am glad toyota went for torque. It’s what we all wanted. Now that we have it, we have our complaints. Typical Tacoma owner syndrome.

 

I do not foresee any real changes in the what Toyota has approached the truck hybrid market with for now. When solid state battery technology becomes proven and tested will probably be when Toyota moves forward with a PHEV truck

 

They will almost certainly offer a PHEV Tacoma well before then since Ford is already offering a PHEV Ranger (but not in North America...yet) and RAM will be debuting a PHEV next year.

 

its cool but also ugly. looks like a ford maverick and a ridgeline had a baby.

 

I thought that as well, but then Toyota complete pulled back the reigns on the 2024 and released the current HV. Where would they even put a battery with enough capacity? No room in the cab, under the cab would mean raising it 6" and even if they decided under the bed, then you have a problem of lithium batteries not liking extreme heat or cold. NiCad could go under the bed since they are much more stabile in the extreme temps, but output would be limited. Solid state will offer the safety, capacity and operation in those extreme temps.

RAV 4 Prime has a 18.1 kWh battery, I would expect a battery in the range 29 kWh would be needed for a Tacoma to get in the 50 mile range per charge.

RAV 4 Prime gets about 38 MPG in hybrid mode and the Tacoma Hybrid is 24 MPG. Takes over 60% more energy to move the Tacoma down the highway.

I hope your right, I would love to see it figured out.

 

The Ranger battery is 11.8 kwh and is located between the frame rails. It will give ~ 25 mile BEV range; which would cover most of my daily activities. Toyota is going to come in with something similar, IMO.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/you-can-now-have-ford-ranger-pickup-phev-power

 

Yeah, Ford's corporate design language has entered another weird phase. A lot of the front ends of their stuff looks kind of dorky now. It's better than the early '00's jellybean phase, though.

 

We have a hybrid Highlander, and its a great vehicle. So I badly wanted a Tacoma hybrid, and waited until they announced the specs in April, but was bummed out that they weren't going to offer it with a 6' bed except in spendy TrailHunter trim... then I also saw it reduced the listed towing capacity by 400lbs from 6400 to 6000. And the added cost was sizable, even if I went with a truck with the smaller 5' bed. So I went ahead and got the non-hybrid model.
I use the truck for everything - commuting, towing, hauling, and most of the time I'm getting right around 20-21 mpg with it. On longer road trips, I've had it up to 24-25 mpg. I miss doing burnouts on dry pavement and other such silly shenanigans which I though would be easier with the hybrid, but the posts about the truck trimming back the power at full throttle applications is disappointing. I was thinking perhaps sometime in the future upgrading if Toyota offered the hybrid in a 6' bed OR, OR Sport or SR5 trim, but maybe not now(?)

 

Maybe I’m weird but I dont feel like the truck is throttled back at high power that bad.

I’m also not experiencing that vibration of sorts while slowing down, or issues stopping, but I’ll pay closer attention here as i continue driving


I think there is room for a bit of extra battery storage under the back seat, they can just reshape the tub, there are still empty areas in there. I bet you could get another 1kWh if needed without any major mods.

Maybe the tune guys will come up with something fun… would be sweet to get a fuel efficiency tune and a torque tune or something. But I’m with TacoRancher and not ready to screw things up yet.

 

Don't know about Sport mode, but there are 2 ways that I know of that DO keep engine running at idle:
1). select the Tow/Haul mode. The performance is better but it increases shift points and operating rpm up a few hundred. Mileage is slightly affected.
2). select S mode and bump shifter up to 8. The transmission shifts normally through all 8 gears. Mileage is slightly affected.

Both modes have to be reselected each time vehicle is restarted. I dislike the stop-start-stop-start-stop-start-stop-start "feature" enough to do this every time I start.

 

It’s a spendy truck but a month in and just under 2K miles on the ODO, I love it. Could never go back.

 

The vibration is super subtle - it sort of feels like the brakes are grabbing just a tiny bit for a second

 

That’s not a maverick?

 

Look at the bed seam. Maverick is unibody, that is body on frame.

 

unrelated to hybrid only but as anyone found any rubber mats to put on the passenger side dash shelf? and some rubber to put in the door shelfs?

 

Thats kind of where I am at. I prefer a hybrid but want (need) a 6-ft bed and the TH is a non-starter. With the minimal fuel savings, I suspect I'd just go with the gasser, but will wait and see where things are in a couple years. Anyway, this is hijacking the thread, which can be a useful resource for anyone looking to get a hybrid. Owners, please post away.

 

I love the hybrid. I committed to making sure our next vehicle purchase was an electrified vehicle in some way. I tried to buy my wife a new lexus NX450h instead of her 4Runner and she declined my offer, so here I am with a trailhunter instead, lol.
I certainly wouldnt recommend buying a Tacoma hybrid for the purpose of getting a hybrid to save fuel, but they are outstanding trucks to be sure.

 

Went from a 2019 Tundra to a hybrid off road. (Tundra got totaled in accident). Test driving the hybrid seemed to give the same feeling on acceleration as the tundra did. After a few weeks and 1200 miles, the only issue I’ve run into is when the truck goes electric after a turn, had too many sh*this cars and I found myself thinking “I know there’s gas in this bastard!”