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Hypothesis... OME suspension should have top plate spacers

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by DevL, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. Aug 3, 2012 at 8:06 PM
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    KenLyns

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    It's buried in here, specified page 125 & 128:
    http://www.arbusa.com/Uploads/PDF/onlineManualsGuides/OME_Guide_current.pdf

    Interestingly, the "Sport" shock PN 90000 has .31" less travel than the N140S. Extended length is the same, but the 90000's collapsed length is longer.

    It's actually a very useful document. You can use it to find OE replacement OME bushing PNs, leaf spring service parts, and very detailed coil spring data (wire diameter, rate, lengths, etc.).

    @DevL: Your information appears match the published specs for each shock. The only unknown is how each mfr measures the shock length. It isn't simple as there are bushings which compress when screwed down.
     
  2. Aug 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM
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  3. Aug 3, 2012 at 8:26 PM
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    OZ-T You are going backwards

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    Thanks
     
  4. Aug 3, 2012 at 10:38 PM
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    Those are non TRD shocks are they not? I am saying OME is shorter than TRD Bilsteins.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2012 at 10:39 PM
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    OZ-T You are going backwards

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    Those are the non TRD shocks
     
  6. Aug 3, 2012 at 10:41 PM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T You are going backwards

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    Not sure how you think the OME is shorter than the TRD shocks

    Explain for dummies
     
  7. Aug 3, 2012 at 10:54 PM
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    FRONT TRD FACTORY SHOCK

    46mm Monotube Shock Absorber
    Internal Design: Monotube
    Collapsed Length: 17.1 in / 434.3 mm
    Extended Length: 22.17 in / 563 mm
    Boot Included: Blue straight
    Mounting Kit: B4-KT1-Z237A01
    Spring Seat: Replaceable (E4-FT1-Z011A03)
    Finish: Yellow paint
    Supercedes: F4-BE5-C513-H1 Part #: 24-188401

    Is that the correct front TRD shock? If it is... well its longer than OME

    Bilsreins 5100 are 1.19" longer than OME.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2012 at 10:58 PM
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    I got all that , it just doesn't seem right , I had them side by side at install , wish I'd taken a picture now
     
  9. Aug 3, 2012 at 11:11 PM
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    Thats what I thought too... but then you and Pugga were talking about shocks limiting travel vs UCA and I started getting data. I am not sure cause I used parts from stock coilover assembly to build my OME. I have loose springs and shocks and its hard to tell without holding assembled units side by side to compare.
     
  10. Aug 3, 2012 at 11:13 PM
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    No , I didn't say any of that .

    I said that I didn't have an issue installing the coilover assembly , and certainly didn't need the spring compressor attached to the coilover during assembly in order for it to fit like you did
     
  11. Aug 3, 2012 at 11:31 PM
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    Do you know he specs on the non TRD shocks ?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Aug 4, 2012 at 12:13 AM
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    I do not have that info.
     
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    That would be handy to find
     
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    Not sure which thread this discussion came from, but most shocks, even Icon ETs, will go to full extension before the UCA uniball bottoms out. i.e. there's no difference in droop travel between a 1.0" uniball and 1.25" uniball. It's also why balljoint UCAs like LR can exist.
     
  15. Aug 4, 2012 at 7:23 AM
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    arent these ome spacers? The 10mm or 13mm lift enhancer kits are plates installed on top of the shock assembly.

    anyway longer travel or not, they are a nice shock for lifted applications giving quality ride on and off the road (at least for the money). If you need all the inches you can in wheel travel go get some LT!!!!!
     
  16. Aug 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM
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    Nope, I said all that :eek:

    But this is turning into an interesting discussion so I'm curious for definitive results. We need someone who has 5100's, TRD Billies, Non-TRD shocks and OME shocks. Either that or we need people to give hub to fender dimesions with the different types of shocks at full droop.
     
  17. Aug 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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    that's the easiest
     
  18. Aug 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM
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    No , those are just generic spacers

    OME does not make top plate spacers
     
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    yep. I had a set of those. definitely not OME
     
  20. Aug 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM
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