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I need help from an alignment expert

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by sblspawn, Sep 18, 2024.

  1. Sep 18, 2024 at 1:30 PM
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    sblspawn

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    I really need someone with knowledge on the subject to tell me how much negative camber I can get with a levelled truck and oem UCAs? I want to be between -3 or -4 camber.
     
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    Why negative camber?
     
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    I hate the look of positive camber on these Tacomas. Besides in my own truck I've been running negative camber for years with 0 problems. Tires are in great shape!
     
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    How much lift are you planning?
     
  5. Sep 18, 2024 at 2:09 PM
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    It's my wife truck. She has Prerunner with aa level kit, 1.5 lift. 285s tires
     
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    Should be able to get some. But with only 1.5”’of lift getting the alignment within factory specs should be a non issue, so there would be no positive camber at all. Should be able to get 0 camber, 0-.05 toe and 2.5 positive caster pretty easily. When you play with the camber on these trucks caster will be affected directly.
     
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    Aside from what the OP said, positive camber is generally not recommended. It can result can reduced handling stability and make the vehicle feel the steering is "floating" (not to mention negatively affecting the vehicle to sway and potentially roll over in extreme situations).

    Generally a small amount of negative camber can be beneficial, but will also change handling characteristics and adversely affect tire wear.
     
  8. Sep 18, 2024 at 2:17 PM
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    Technicians with knowledge about the subject are hard to find.
     
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    As you adjust the caster you naturally get camber to go negative. With the minimal lift getting want you want should not be an issue. The only issue may be with the 285s depending on wheel choice you may need caster as high as you can get to clear the front cab mount, unless you plan on a cmc. So they will affect the camber number.
     
  10. Sep 18, 2024 at 2:27 PM
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    Given that the 2g is the same as the 3g underneath, camber at +1.5" of suspension lift should be easily correctable if you find a shop that knows how to adjust the eccentrics. The hard part is finding a decent shop as most just correct toe and send you on your way. Ideally camber should be between 0 and -0.5 degrees for the best tire wear and drivability. Unless this is a drift build or some hellaflush fitment truck with stretched tires, there is no reason to have -4 degrees of camber up front. Caster, on the other hand, is usually in the 2 degree range stock, but if you are larger tires you might see if they can increase it a bit in order to not rub on the cab when turning.
     
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    I agree. It’s hard to find a good tech who’s willing to put in the effort to get alignments correct and especially if you’re asking for specific numbers.
     
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    The same shit everyone else has.
    Why?

    Camber should be just slightly negative.

    Caster should be between 3-4*

    You’ll never get those numbers on stock UCAs.
     
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    Interesting! I don't like the way toyota suggests these trucks should be aligned. When you look at the front of these tacomas, they look pretty silly with the positive camber. Even in the way the tires rub the pavement, it doesn't look like a normal thing to do. They don't look flat at all!
     
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    With the 0 offset. You’ll need caster on the higher end to clear the cab mount. That will put camber into the negative, how much you’ll have to see. Personally I wouldnt run more than -.5 camber but that’s me.
     
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    But it's only a level kit!?
     
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    The same shit everyone else has.
    You’re still lifting the front of the truck 1.5”

    And there’s not enough adjustability in the LCA cams to nail both these numbers.

    This is the reason why you see lifted Tacoma with positive camber
     
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    You won’t get that much caster on the oe arms. Higher caster really helps with handling. That why many of us go to after market ucas. For example I run 4 degrees caster, -.5 camber and .05 toe in. You can’t get numbers like that on OE arms.
     
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    I'll be happy with -3. My Tacoma has -3 and looks pretty good, although sometimes it looks a little positive due to the independent suspension and the unevenness of the roads.
     
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    Is it lifted too?
     

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