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I need slider specs!

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by malander, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. Jan 26, 2011 at 10:18 AM
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    malander [OP] That's some tight butthole

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    Hey guys I've been contemplating some sliders for a while and have decided to try and build my own. I know they're going to be about 78" long made of 2x2 square tubing that's either 1/8" or .120 wall. My main design is finished I just don't know what size frame plates and gussets I should use. I wouldn't mind over engineering these as they will be pretty heavy. I'll try and get some pics up on the next couple days but basically imagine demello hybrid sliders except all square tube. Any of these measurements would be a huge help so please let me know what you guys are running. Thanks alot ya'll
     
  2. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:03 PM
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    malander [OP] That's some tight butthole

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    Come on guys I know ya have em! If I can get the specs in before 3:00ish I might be able to finish the design today
     
  3. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:10 PM
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    the frame plates on my sliders are 4" x 4" i believe (i have the demello standard round-tube sliders) and the gussets are just a triangle piece from the edge of the plate to the tube that extends away from the frame.

    i don't have my truck with me here at work today or i would go get exact measurements for you. i can check and reply back when i get home ~3:30 or 4pm.
     
  4. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:24 PM
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    malander [OP] That's some tight butthole

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    Thanks alot I think that will help me get this design done today, do you think the gussets would just be about an inch on two sides and 1.414" for the hypotenuse? I can't decide on if that would be sufficient or if I should go with a massive 3x4x5 triangle. I also forgot to mention that I need the length of the legs. Once again thank you
     
  5. Jan 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM
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    why are you using sqaure tubing?

    that's going to look weird in my opinion
     
  6. Jan 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM
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    i always over-build when doing projects like this myself, so if it were me, i'd opt for as large a triangle as possible. it's going to be under the truck and pretty much invisible, so why not, you know?

    that said, i think the gussets on my sliders are probably 1.5" - 2" per side (again, i'll have to measure later for actual specs), but i don't recall them being overly large and the sliders are definitely solid and can be used as a jacking point if need be.

    do you plan on welding or bolting the sliders to the frame?
     
  7. Jan 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM
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    Here are actual measurements:

    Frame mount plates: 4" x 4"
    Gussets: 4" (along the tube) x 2" (along the gusset), but then the top part of the triangle that would overhang the gusset is cut off so it looks something like:

    |--------\
    | \
    | \
    |________\

    where the gusset is on the left and the tube going out to the sliders is along the bottom.

    the tube attachments to the sliders are roughly 8"
     
  8. Jan 26, 2011 at 8:38 PM
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    Square is alot easier to measure out and cut angles from whereas with round tubing I would have to get a tube bender and deal with a whole lot more shenanigans than I want to. It's either perfect or complete shut to me and I want to get this done right.
     
  9. Jan 26, 2011 at 8:45 PM
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    where the gusset is on the left and the tube going out to the sliders is along the bottom.
    This is a little confusing to me but I'll figure it out when I'm not so tired. They will be welded in the end. So basically your gusset is more of a quadrilateral than a triangle correct? I think I will still be going with a triangle simply because it seems like it would distribute pressure to the frame plate better. I finished the design but it will need some refinement when I take more measurements when it gets a little warmer out. I'll try and post up pics tomorrow. Thanks alot man you've been a great help
     
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    Had tons on the old Taco's.... new Tundra is pretty stock
    If you'd like some of the same gussets and 'L' shape frame plates I use on all my sliders, hit me up. Wrapping under the frame in the 'L' shape adds a lot of beef IMO. My plates are 4" wide and the gussets are a 2x6" right triangle. Slider legs should be about 8" long
     
  11. Jan 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM
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    Had tons on the old Taco's.... new Tundra is pretty stock
    [​IMG]

    These are CNC waterjet cut from 3/16 plate. :cool:
     
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    sorry, my little ascii art spacing got a little messed up, but the idea's there. the sentence that confused you is referring to the diagram. so the frame mount plate is along the left edge and the leg going out to the slider is along the bottom of the diagramed gusset.

    looks like relentless has a pretty solid set up there. my mounting plates don't wrap under the frame in an "L" shape, but if i were to build a set myself, i'd most likely go that route for added strength.
     
  14. Jan 27, 2011 at 6:53 AM
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    I really wanted to make this all by myself but I definitely don't want to skimp out on the mounting points or end up with crooked ass sliders. I think I would have to modify the gussets unless I welded the leg to the bottom of the frame plate and not the center. How much would eight frame plates and gussets cost me?
     
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    Thank man, I think I got it now as I said I may order some relentless Fran plates and gussets
     
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    Alright guys I probably won't have time to post up picks today but I'll try and figure it out on my iPhone. I will probably extend the main body of the sliders so that they are around 12"-13" from the frame. Legs will be about 8"
     
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    I would have used round heavy walled pipe onto 3/8 "L" plate steel and weld on frame
     
  19. Jan 29, 2011 at 9:47 PM
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    malander [OP] That's some tight butthole

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    heres a quick pick. legs have been redesigned and aren't full assembled in this pick. The orange area looks like it isn't cut out for some reason but it is symmetric to the other end. what do ya'll think? these are 78" but I'm designing some 80" sliders as well. the angle thing has kinda frustrated me, you can't really angle square tube because the legs would be about 2.2" long rather than 2" because of the angled cut (im thinkin about 25 degrees)
     
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    Well I like the angle look. But mine were easy with round tubing. Also got to make sure the door can open. I put my braces on the frame and then adjusted the angle. What your doing right now is the hardest part. An angle with square tubing is tricky.
     
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