I was wrong....10 ply vs 6ply. The whole truth...but the plot thickens on page 5....

Nah, I ran them around 35 psi

 

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If anything too much pressure.

 

Maybe not airing down enough, not too much. You'd have to pretty much run them flat to be aired down too much.

BTW, 235/85R16 pizza cutters FTW!

 

I think it's just those tires. It's pretty much impossible to get ply specs over th internet. However I did just read an article that even the E rated duratracs have 2 ply sidewalls (I cannot verify the article though as I don't have those tires).

 

That is true. I looked into them in a 235/85 E. And they still had 2 ply sidewalls.

 

Well I'll be damned.

 

I don't think I could have afforded it being younger.

How old does one usually need to be for a vehicle like mine?

If it's even better prior to this truck I had a bagged, wide body, turbo'd, BRZ.

 

I guess I always see younger dudes rocking LT trucks with glass fenders. Guys in their 20's who don't mind road noise or jarring rides.

That's why I'm here trying to make sure that the idea of higher load rating on a tire doesn't necessarily mean better puncture protection. I'd like to run a C load since I don't have any extra weight in my bed or plate bumper. Currently running E's and they're stiff and loud as hell. So far everything points to no, load range does not mean more protection.

 

I haven't been able to correlate load range to higher puncture resistance either, but construction seems to be. I've had success with lots of different 3-ply sidewall BFGs, the old KO and KM, current KO2 in various sizes and C, D, and E load ranges.

Being a load range E simply means it can safely hold 80 psi nominal pressure, which can obviously be achieved with 2 plies and I assume thicker rubber. But that doesn't seem to help resistance to punctures that just cut through rubber.

The numbers of plies and the lay-up of them crossing to support the rubber better is my theory as to why I and the guys in my 4wd club have better luck with BFG than Duratrac tires.

 

Changing title to the "The plot thickens page 5..."

 

Title changed...lets keep the dialogue going. The good news is, my new ST Maxxs have more plys and what appears to be a better lay up of said plys.

 

This correct.
Just because you have more Plies doesn't mean that you're going to have less punctures it is less subjectable to punctures going all the way through the tire and causing a leak because of all the Plies but that doesn't mean that the rubber! is harder! and it's not going to crack, splinter or get punctured as any other load rating.
If anything look at the passenger tires their mileages are rated higher than the LT and assumingly that would mean that the rubber is harder.

 

I would also mention that when you see tires fail on the trail that aren't obvious punctures with a root sticking out they are usually bubbles the carcass. My thought is that is also due to number of and orientation of plies. When we air down, or I guess even if we don't, off road the tires are asked to distort around obstacles that are often odd shaped and can be quite sharp, which I think causes the weave to fatigue and break strands that eventually leads to a failure.

 

I read pg 1 then skipped to pg 5... but I'll throw in my 0.02.

I have C rated winter tires. I thought "oh it's fine because they only see light duty, no gnarly rocks or anything". Average 2 flats per winter, every flat has been slices in the sidewalls from going down gravel roads (even 1 on a good highway). Road hazard warranty is boss.

I have E rated summer tires. Bounce them off of all kinds of crappy sharp rocks and literally never had a flat.

The difference could have nothing to do with load ratings though... the E rated summers are Micky Thompson ATZ P3s which are probably designed with more punishing conditions in mind.

 

So let's think about this...how does someone purchase the most puncture resistant tire possible?

If plys mean nothing for puncture resistance and load rating means nothing for puncture resistance, how does someone choose a tire that will perform for their given abuse level?

I am even now questioning if D cups truly are better than A cups?

 

Another perspective:
Ds are made for comfort, As are made for performance.

 

If you want puncture resistant... Then you get mt/R's with Kevlar those things are bulletproof

 

I hear Goodyear Wrangler All-terrain Adventure with Kevlar is super puncture resistant.

In fact, I hear they're so puncture resistant, Toyota uses them exclusively for their top-of-the line Tacoma TRD Pro model.

 

Exactly...although those shitty stock tires are the same one that the banned Smitty praised so highly. How it was that he hated everything about his truck except the worthless tires that came on it makes no sense to me...

 

I wondered where he's been! Figured the tires finally blew out somewhere far far away.