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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by HB52taco, May 10, 2010.

  1. May 10, 2010 at 2:36 PM
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    HB52taco

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    I need to get more travel out of my truck with out going the long travel route so i decided to look at getting new coilovers and UCA's. I saw that icons will give more travel but will my cv joints max out or break before i reach the extra travel? I would have the front set to 3" of lift. Im new to lifting my truck and want to do things right the first time. I do plan on jumping my truck somewhat and need it to stay together. What are some good ideas for the rear?
     
  2. May 10, 2010 at 2:54 PM
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    Long travel.

    Barring that, you'll want good coilovers, new uniball upper control arms, and I'd recommend some hydraulic or air bumps to soften the landings. Also, reinforce your lower control arm mounts, alignment cam tabs, coil buckets, and double-sheer your UCA mounts.

    For the rear the ideal setup would be a spring-under conversion. Using a longer leaf pack with more arch mounted under the axle gives you a lot more uptravel. Look into Giant Motorsports and DMZ Fabrication.

    Keep your front lift limited to 2.5". More than that and you'll eat CV boots, and avoid differential drop kits for the 05+ Tacomas. They're mostly worthless and cause more problems than they solve when mounting skidplates.

    Jumping and remaining reliable is not cheap, but it's very possible.
     
  3. May 10, 2010 at 2:55 PM
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    You'll also want to reinforce your engine mounts. The 2005 and 2006 frames were built without proper reinforcements and the engine mounts tend to cave in the frames, even without jumping.
     
  4. May 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
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    I can't believe I forgot about the spindle gussets! Yes, you'll definitely need those too.

    Still possible to bend the spindles even with the gussets but it makes them FAR stronger.
     
  5. May 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM
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  6. May 11, 2010 at 1:00 AM
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    Maybe il have to stick with mild off roading sounds like these were ment to stay on the ground unless i had an exra 7k. I have a 91 4runner that i beat the crap out of and its stock but can get a foot of air over drainage dips haha. Right now i have the spacers and a drop kit, if i went with the icons set at 2.5 could i get the full 10" of travel or will my cvs break before i reach that
     
  7. May 11, 2010 at 7:23 AM
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    Sway-A-Way 2.5" coilovers, Camburg 1.25" uniball UCAs, and replacing your stock bumpstop with something that'll allow a bit more compression will get you 10.5" of travel.

    The key there is the bumpstop replacement since the stock one will hit before the rest of the suspension binds (as designed, of course). Light Racing jounce shocks are an incredible upgrade and I highly recommend them for any mid-travel setup.
     
  8. May 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM
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    I mildly jumped my truck before I went LT, back when I had SAW 2.5's and Camburg UCA's.

    In the dunes, I could get the front end 2 feet off the ground without issues. That's in the dunes, though. (see build thread for pictures)

    Pretty much any air on regular dirt, unless it was at very high speed/low angle/low altitude was a very harsh impact.

    Just know - if you try to run your mid-travel truck like a long travel (i.e. getting airborne), you are going to break things. If not outright snap something, you will weaken parts to the point where you will break something randomly on the smallest bump (that's what happened to me). Highly, highly recommend spindle gussets from All Pro. They're $50 plus welding them on.
     
  9. May 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM
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    Actually you dont need 7k. More like 15k for the front and rear done properly. :D LOL.
     
  10. May 11, 2010 at 5:34 PM
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    Yea.

    Even if you're not going to cage the bed, you will need to reinforce anything and everything if you plan to be hitting whoop sections at 50+ MPH.

    Everyone sees the race trucks just skim the whoops and thinks "if I had that suspension I could do that". What they don't realize is that every Monday following a race that truck is heading back to the shop to fix whatever the broke/bent/wore out the prior weekend.
     
  11. May 11, 2010 at 5:42 PM
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    Yeah man, just keep it on the ground.
     
  12. May 11, 2010 at 5:55 PM
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