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Quote from Icon

These coil-over’s are meant to be installed with an aftermarket uniball upper control arm kit to ensure the proper amount of wheel travel and to prevent premature ball joint wear.

http://www.iconvehicledynamics.com/...-Remote-Reservoir-Front-Coil%2dover-Shock-Kit

 

I called LT direct at 503-822-1111

 

Anybody have any idea on the angles a unibal UCA can handle?

 

Just call Icon, they designed the Coilover they should be able to tell you the specs the UCA need to be.

 

Don't have a phone

 

Send them a email:

http://www.iconvehicledynamics.com/company/contact-us/

 

Sweet keep us posted, I'm interested in this too.

 

I just spoke with Icon, they don't reccomend you use the extended with the ball joint UCA's. They said that the LR will help with more movement however at full droop the ball joint still has a tendency to fail.

 

So in summary just shell out the money and get the Billet Upper Control Kit

 

I did the same! They took the shipping off.
This kit comes with new U Bolts also

 

Not exactly, just buy a Uni-Ball UCA, dosen't matter the brand

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is it true that ext. length coilovers will work with Camburg ball joint uca's? someone posted that earlier...

 

See above

Call icon to speak to them about it, they said you could do it but they don't recommend it. I wouldn't personally risk it myself, I would spend the extra $200 bucks and buy a Uni-Ball UCA or go with the standard length coilover.

 

Just ordered the Extended Travel Remote Reservoir Coilover

 

Hmmm I don't know what to think now....I was kinda going for the whole thing under the assumption I could run LR's and it was comparable to doing the Toytec ULK with 2.5 Radflo's.

Noticed this in another thread BTW. The question is who to believe, ICON or LR??

Originally Posted by LIGHT RACING LAB
"ToledoFJ called us and let us know this thread was flowing. Here are a few deign points on our Upper Control Arms you all might be interested in knowing:
• Our Upper Control Arms were designed work with a wide range of coilover shocks; from the stock Toyota units to long travel aftermarket shocks similar to the Light Racing or Icon units. This includes shocks that allow for a slight increase in droop travel.
• The increased travel was accommodated by using a ball joint with a higher range of travel. The stock Toyota ball joint has a 77° included angle (or 38.5° off centerline). Our design allows for a 90° included angle (or 45 ° off centerline. A spherical bearing (monoball) with high angularity inserts rarely has more than a 35° included angle. The angle of the ball joint plate is optimized for this increased ball joint travel.
• The sliding off-set ball joint that we use allows for a huge range of alignment adjustment rather than designing an arm with a static off-set and relying on the Lower Control Arm cam bolts for adjustment. This means the camber of our arm can be adjusted to the stock upper control arm geometry or it can be adjusted for proper camber in a 4” lifted vehicle. The caster can also be adjusted from stock numbers up to a 4° increase in caster for better high speed stability.
• Using a standard ball joint (instead of a monoball) and molded rubber inner pivots (instead of urethane) gives better ride quality, better longevity, lower maintenance, and quiet operation.
• We as a company have 30 years experience designing ball joints for aftermarket and OEM use. The design and quality of the ball joints used on these arms is top notch.
• Our arms are coated using E-coating. This is a process where the coating is electro-statically grown on the part. This is used for many OEM suspension components and gives superior corrosion protection to zinc plating, paint, or powdercoating."

 

I dunno, that is your choice. I just tend to follow directions, engineers don't design things and make recommendations for the fun of it.

 

Meh, rather have the stronger uniball UCAs anyway.

 

That's my whole point....which engineers am I supposed to trust? The ones that designed the coil-overs saying the Control Arms won't work? Or the ones that designed the Upper Control arms saying they designed them to work with Icons.

Oh well, thanks for the heads up, I'll do a little more research before I pull the trigger on the combo

 

Goodluck

Do you offroad much? If you do you will see the benefit of the uni-ball more. If you don't offroad as much the ball joint should be fine.

 

damn, that is confusing. if LR says their uca's will work with Icon, then go for it. Icon probabbly prefers a uni ball type in hopes that you buy their expensive billit uca's .