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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by benbacher, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. Oct 4, 2012 at 2:04 PM
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    If I remember right the LCA SKID is what mounts the second shoock, not the LCA itself. So the only thing in my mind that could happen is the weld failing between the skid and the LCA. And that doesn't worry me very much. Welds is strong. I could be wrong though, it's happened once before. :cool:
     
  2. Oct 4, 2012 at 2:16 PM
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    The OE LCA's are poop. That's why Toyota just swaps them out if you need bushings or a BJ. I have seen (on the web) more then a few fail and when I say fail I mean the tube around the bushing totally tore in half due to stress cracks similar to a LT kit some people have had the same issue with.

    IMHO I would never rock stock LCA's if you plan on truly beating your rig at high speed.

    If it's just for looks then it sounds like the perfect mall crawling kit.

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  3. Oct 4, 2012 at 2:37 PM
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    Stock spindles? Probly the first thing to snap like a twig
     
  4. Oct 4, 2012 at 5:51 PM
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    Hey one of you guys in here might know, why isn't 4WD's can'd do spindle lifts, what is different on the spindle?
     
  5. Oct 4, 2012 at 5:54 PM
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    my only guess would be the angle of the cv if you put in a lift spindle
     
  6. Oct 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM
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    Basically, the outer cv and axle will go through the LCA if you keep the OE suspension geometry. 2wd spindles keep the OE geometry, and bolt right up.
     
  7. Oct 6, 2012 at 5:50 PM
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    here's some pics for you guys. saw this set up in person today at the expo. looks great (this was on a 2012 tacoma)

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    and 2 more new products from icon. bolt on hydro bumps and OE replacement rear bypass shocks

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  8. Oct 6, 2012 at 6:04 PM
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    Hmm Un sure on the skid. I want second shock but I like how the bamf skid protects the lca better.
     
  9. Oct 6, 2012 at 6:10 PM
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    hmmmmm that looks interesting. im liking those rear bypass
     
  10. Oct 9, 2012 at 12:27 AM
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    Shocks also have knobs for adjustment, this is new also right?
     
  11. Oct 9, 2012 at 9:43 AM
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    why did they add another stock bump stop under the original one? somethings goofy

    The bamf skid is of poor design IMHO. That steel that protects the "cam" will only bend under any impact and cause more damage most likely + his skids have poor tolerances and are spaced back 1/2" - 3/4" from the LCA or at least the first 70 he made in his group buy were. The first rock you touch shears the mounting bolts because of the huge gap. IMHO the LCA skid should have super tight tolerances so it can be welded to the LCA for superior protection. This will also allow the bolt on guys to not sheer mounting bolts should they impact anything because the force will be directed into the LCA not rest solely on the bolts holding it.

    I would bet my paycheck the Icon skid would far outlast a Bamf skid any day unless the Bamf design has been changed. You can clearly see the Icon skid is flush tot he LCA.
     
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    lol you turd!


    now im even more unsure of what i want haha
     
  13. Oct 9, 2012 at 10:14 AM
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    I thought about what you said when you Pmed me about it and I'm leaving the skids the way they are. I would much rather have the bolts as a failure point then the LCA It self. With over 200 sold and one "failure" and from ramming rocks at that something is bound to give. In this case it was the bolts and the alignment of his LCA's was still spot on so I feel they did their jobs. I myself would much rather replace a .25c carriage bolt then get the alignment redone. Yes everything has a failure point and putting skids on your truck does not turn it into a battering ram. Honestly if your bashing your LCA's into rocks you need to chose your lines better. I still feel my skids have the most coverage on the market today but thanks for the opinion.
     
  14. Oct 9, 2012 at 10:19 AM
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    good point

    i dont rock crawl. but going through the washes in the desert can be a rock dodging event especially at speed when you get human head sized rocks in the middle of your path.
     
  15. Oct 9, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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    Honestly then i would just replace the LCA's all together no skids are going to protect you at high speeds like that the force will be transferred to the LCA anyway you look at it. I have been thinking of designing a replacement LCA for the mid travel guys i think TC has one for you guys don't they?
     
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    His BAMF skids are made of 1/4 inch steel, it's takes a LOT of force to bend these things. The amount needed to wreck these skids would do serious damage to your truck regardless. There is nothing wrong with how he designed the cam bolt protection, if it gets bent back, the back of the plate would come in contact with the end of the cam bolt, that's it. If you managed to damage the cam bolt with the skid, chances are the amount of force needed to do that kind of damage would have rendered having a skid a moot point, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
    Nothing is going to be perfect because when you armor one piece you then make another area the wink link.
     
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    I know keeping loose tolerances makes for quicker production and less issues with fitment from customers but IMO I don't see any use for them if they aren't made to hit rocks without shearing bolts. If it can't take a hit whats the purpose of them? Bling?

    My TC skids have been on for almost 3 years and have bashed off of plenty of stuff including many rocks. Craig's BAMF LCA skids were highly "damaged" and falling off after one hard run.

    We can agree to disagree on this one.
     
  18. Oct 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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    Not trying to argue here. I have seen his skids after one day on the trails. They were demolished. I sent Jerry a PM telling him what I though of the design and how I would fix it. I said I would keep my trap shut.

    Not until I just spoke to a member who purchased them and found out he never changed the design did I now speak up.

    No other LCA skid manufacture puts the LCA skids 1/2" from the LCA. It's simple physics. There is a reason all skids go flush to the OE members no matter what skid they are. If you want to relying on some thin grade 5 bolt to hold your skid on a 5k truck at speed hitting something have fun with that.

    Ill unsub now so you can all flame away. Just remember I tried to help everyone before you guys even knew of this issue and I told Jerry the ones he already sold could of been given spacers so theirs don't break.

    Now flame on
     
  19. Oct 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    I dont drive at the speed a lot of these other guys do. i dont like to push my truck to hard to the point of breaking since its still my daily driver.

    lol some of these guys seem to really push their trucks to the limit.

    i just like the idea of extra protection so i know it will handle more than what ill put it through and im sure it will handle what i put it through i just like peace of mind.



    yea i like the TC ones but they are 1500 bucks haha

    i know i know

    "you have to pay to play"

    theres also lsk goin for about 1000 right now but no one has jumped on the group buy really.

    i just need to bite the bullet and start saving
     
  20. Oct 9, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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    geez boyd, you're so controversial... :)
     
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