1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

IFS lift vs. SAS swap???

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by ak47, Nov 18, 2009.

?

IFS lift vs. SAS swap

  1. IFS lift

    37.1%
  2. SAS swap

    62.9%
  1. Nov 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM
    #1
    ak47

    ak47 [OP] v.hey its my Avatar avatar.v

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Member:
    #25696
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    stock 2nd owner
    FML.. well been doing a little lookin and i was just wondering what you guys would do. lift for IFS= $2500/3000 straight axle= around $1400 plus leafs and tires what are your thoughts??
     
  2. Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM
    #2
    Ese Loco

    Ese Loco Taco Man Sam

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Member:
    #19623
    Messages:
    426
    Gender:
    Male
    Vero Beach, FL / Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC TRD Off-Road 4x4 V6 6-speed
    Legal Florida Tint all-around, 1.5" add-a-leaf, bilstein 5100 rear shocks, Light Racing Coilovers, Removed secondary air filter, K&N airfilter, Amsoil 100% synthetic motor oil, Amsoil synthetic severe gear in rear differential, Differential breather mod, Painted rims and logo's black, amsoil oil filter
    you sure you dont have those prices switched around?
     
  3. Nov 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM
    #3
    ak47

    ak47 [OP] v.hey its my Avatar avatar.v

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Member:
    #25696
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    stock 2nd owner
    nope not talking brand new on the swap.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM
    #4
    dylandercole

    dylandercole Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Member:
    #20547
    Messages:
    1,372
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dylan
    Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
    Vehicle:
    03 SR5 TRD 4x4 5-speed
    sway-a-way 2.0 coilovers, 1.5'' AAL, 1'' toytec shackle lift, Go-Rhino 3000 Grille Guard, Kicker KS6502 speakers, JVC KD-S24 Head unit, billstein 5125 rear shocks, Deck Plate mod, K&N air filter, Wheelers offroad front and rear braided brake lines, diff breather mod, power slot rotors, ebc yellow stuff pads
    uhhhhhh yea i think your prices are off first of all. and second what kind of lift are we talking about here?
     
  5. Nov 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM
    #5
    rab89

    rab89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Member:
    #12578
    Messages:
    5,506
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ross
    Kelowna b.c canada
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB
    Grillcraft mx black upper and lower BHLM with Gloss black 265 70 17 bfg a/t center console light mini mag mounted in center console debadged bed lights 35W 5000k HID's
    toyota 4wd owner magazine has an issue going now, an ifs 4 runner vs solid axle, check it out.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM
    #6
    pittim

    pittim Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

    Joined:
    May 28, 2008
    Member:
    #6939
    Messages:
    11,459
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    IN, PA
    Vehicle:
    Dented and rusty
    Pink slider.
    IFS lift is nowhere near 3k.

    I'd say 2k max (Icons and TC UCAs)

    SAS is more than just getting an axle and some leafs and bolting them up. Check out TTORA's Solid Axle forum to get a figure of what all you need to do for a SAS.
     
  7. Nov 18, 2009 at 9:08 PM
    #7
    AlexForbesR6

    AlexForbesR6 My R6 Eats Me

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Member:
    #21488
    Messages:
    615
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    Houston, TX
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 6-Spd
    sas is the sex...


    only slightly less secsy than a LT truck
     
  8. Nov 18, 2009 at 10:03 PM
    #8
    ak47

    ak47 [OP] v.hey its my Avatar avatar.v

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Member:
    #25696
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    stock 2nd owner
    okay it seems that my information was a little strewed price aside sas or lift?
     
  9. Nov 18, 2009 at 10:06 PM
    #9
    rab89

    rab89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Member:
    #12578
    Messages:
    5,506
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ross
    Kelowna b.c canada
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB
    Grillcraft mx black upper and lower BHLM with Gloss black 265 70 17 bfg a/t center console light mini mag mounted in center console debadged bed lights 35W 5000k HID's
    do you wheel HARD? if not IFS
     
  10. Nov 18, 2009 at 10:08 PM
    #10
    ak47

    ak47 [OP] v.hey its my Avatar avatar.v

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Member:
    #25696
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    stock 2nd owner
    well the truck now is my daily driver/toy will be toy within 16 months..
     
  11. Nov 18, 2009 at 10:11 PM
    #11
    kg4ghn

    kg4ghn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Member:
    #25149
    Messages:
    136
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    GA
    Vehicle:
    02 PreRunner DblCab SR5
    Nerf bars, JVC CD player

    SAS is pure awesomeness.

    But you are looking at lots of money and time. Lots. of both.
     
  12. Nov 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM
    #12
    rab89

    rab89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Member:
    #12578
    Messages:
    5,506
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ross
    Kelowna b.c canada
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB
    Grillcraft mx black upper and lower BHLM with Gloss black 265 70 17 bfg a/t center console light mini mag mounted in center console debadged bed lights 35W 5000k HID's
    A toy you wanna wheel real hard? you can wheel the hell out of IFS, SAS is a big swap
     
  13. Nov 18, 2009 at 10:39 PM
    #13
    SafetyDang

    SafetyDang get your facts straight

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2009
    Member:
    #15759
    Messages:
    381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dang
    Anaheim, CA
    Vehicle:
    DC with 4x4 & MT Conversion
    Swapped to Manual Trans & 4x4
    First off ask yourself what kind of wheeling you do.. If you even wheel... So many people these days jump into building a rig and then end up selling it because they dont like it.. If you wheel hard as in 4x4 crawling then go SAS if you have the Time and money. If you want to start wheeling IFS is a good start for a good overall off road vehicle.
     
  14. Nov 19, 2009 at 3:31 AM
    #14
    Janster

    Janster Old & Forgetful

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Member:
    #1138
    Messages:
    13,796
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Jandy
    Lancaster, PA
    Vehicle:
    2007 4.0L 4x4 TRD Sport Access Cab A
    Advantage Torza top (tri-fold), Husky floor mats, RuffTuff seat covers, C2C hood struts, Homelink mirror, USA Spec PA15-Toy (120gig Classic & 8gig nano), Garmin Nuvi 660, Protecta Bed mat, Pop-n-lock, TSB Springs, Scangauge II, Heated drivers seat, Fumoto drain valve, Aries pushbar, PIAA 540 fog lights, Hood scoop grahics, Flowmaster 50 series dual catback exhaust, RainX Latitude windshield wipers, Husky rear floor liner (ontop of folded down seats). Console Vault.
    Research research research.....

    Honesty - with those prices listed....you haven't done enough research about solid axle swaps to know exactly what's involved.

    I would highly recommend doing an IFS lift .....until you learn a lot more about what a solid axle swap is and what's involved in doing one.

    A solid axle swap involves a lot of work, time, & custom applications. Cutting your vehicle and NEVER going back to its original setup. It involves custom setups for steering, allignment, and drivability. You can't just slap everything on and think it'll be a dream vehicle to drive. If you don't do it RIGHT and have things setup RIGHT, it could be a deathtrap.

    Do you even go offroading? Generally, if you have to ask us....whether or not an IFS lift versus a SAS - then chances are....you're not all that familiar with offroading in the first place.

    Give us more information about WHY you're even asking us that question.
     
  15. Nov 19, 2009 at 4:11 AM
    #15
    Brunes

    Brunes abides. Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Member:
    #7011
    Messages:
    17,730
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rotorhead
    Big Easy, USA
    Vehicle:
    08 Red/Graphite and Satin Black
    Inside: Tint, Wet Okole 1/2 Piped Red/Black Covers, Black Weathertech Digital Fit Mats, URD Short Throw w/ TWM Weighted Knob, USA Spec iPod adapter. Outside: 4300K Retro w/ Angel Eyes and Red Shrouds, 5000K Blazer Fog Light Retrofit, Debadge, Bed Locking Handle, Satin Black Rims Performance: TRD/Steigmeier Blower w/ 2.7 Pulley. 668 Injectors and 320 LPH AEM Fuel pump. URD UCON and 7th Injector. DTLT Headers, URD Y-Pipe, Wicked Flow Muffler. Suspension: Both: OME Shocks Front: 886X's and TC UCAs Rear: Dakars Armor: Relentless Front Bumper Relentless High Clearance Rear w/ Tire/Rotopax Swing Out Relentless Front, Mid, and TCase skids BAMF Diff Skid Recovery and Spares: Fullsize Spare Tire 2x2 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Water Rotopax Warn 9.5XP-S Winch Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Ironman Off-Road Recovery Kit Upcoming: ATO Gas Tank Skid and Sliders w/ kickout. ATO Shackle Flip Kit. Down the line: Front/Rear ARB Lockers w/ OBA. 4.56 Gears
    Agree with Jan- If you have to ask about which one to pick- You should probably go with the IFS.

    SAS is great- but there are downsides too. Until you understand everything you are going to have to do and deal with- I would get the IFS lift.
     
  16. Nov 19, 2009 at 4:38 AM
    #16
    higherlux

    higherlux Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2008
    Member:
    #11307
    Messages:
    6,943
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Blake
    middle of S.C.
    Vehicle:
    1998 tacoma 2.7l 4wd/1986 POS
    Mall crawler status
    if it were me id sas it
     
  17. Nov 19, 2009 at 7:28 AM
    #17
    pittim

    pittim Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

    Joined:
    May 28, 2008
    Member:
    #6939
    Messages:
    11,459
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    IN, PA
    Vehicle:
    Dented and rusty
    Pink slider.
    If I had the money to SAS my truck, I'd do it.

    But, I don't have the money, nor do I wheel enough/in the type of places that a SAS would be needed at.

    These trucks are pretty capable in stock form, esp with the locker. Ask the guys that went down to URE last month. There were two of us running stock suspension and we did everything (almost) that the rest of the group did.

    If you think that you need to SAS your truck, you probably don't. You'll know when it's SAS time.
     
  18. Nov 19, 2009 at 7:59 AM
    #18
    Gr8WhiteTaco

    Gr8WhiteTaco bishes love my haircut

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Member:
    #11964
    Messages:
    2,302
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Aaron
    Knoxville, TN
    Vehicle:
    SOLD 02 Double Cab TRD 4x4
    2005 Mazda 3S hatchback
    Honestly I would wheel it like you have it for awhile. Wheel it til something breaks. Improve what needs to be improved, sliders, armor, tires, lockers etc. And then I would SAS or IFS lift. I mean you can take a IFS truck (with the right mods and driver) through some good trails. I've took my fairly stock truck through some good trails, not because I had a lift or SAS but because I took my time, chose the right lines, and kicked it in 4lo and lock'd it when need be. I think wheeling is more fun with challenges instead of spending alot of money on all this stuff that makes it easier to wheel.
     
  19. Nov 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM
    #19
    WATRD

    WATRD Keyser Soze

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Member:
    #22382
    Messages:
    162
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Duvall, WA
    Vehicle:
    '01 Supercharged SAS
    Check out my site, it's mostly up to date and there's too much to list here.
    Wheel what you have, until you hit a point where there's some obstacle that you can't do that you need to to do.
    Then upgrade what you need to do it.
    Repeat.

    It's easy to build a rig that doesn't suit your needs by throwing money at it. It's harder to build a rig that really suits your needs, but you will be happier.

    Are you breaking IFS parts every time out? Are you unable to go places you need to go? Are you in danger because you are maxing out your rig?

    If not, you still have room to grow with IFS before you hit the wall and have to make a major decision like taking a plasma cutter and removing everything Toyota welded to your frame.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Nov 19, 2009 at 8:50 AM
    #20
    ak47

    ak47 [OP] v.hey its my Avatar avatar.v

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Member:
    #25696
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    stock 2nd owner
    haha thanks guys. the only reason i asked was i want a bulletproof truck (more then it is.) mostly for the snow for now. i had a guy tell me sas was the way to go over the lift. but now you guys set me straight.
    Now the question is getting a locker. what price vs. quality.

    And i just wanna say TW is addicting:D:D
     
To Top