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Impressive HP from 4.0L

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by hardtaco, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:02 PM
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    3.8 or 3.6? The 3.8 was junk but the new Pentastar puts out a decent amount of power. 285hp and 265tq.
     
  2. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:13 PM
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  3. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:14 PM
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    I don't see the 4.0L as impressive anymore.

    In 2005 it was a great engine.

    2008 it was ok.

    2010+ it was in need of a change, and got it in the 4runner.

    The dual VVT-i engine should be in the Tacoma to bring it up to date, I have no idea why Toyota would continue to use such old technology when they have a very similar engine with more power and MPG in another vehicle.
     
  4. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:18 PM
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    How is DOHC, variable valve timing and COP old technology?
     
  5. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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    Even with good tires you really have to take it easy with these trucks. I've spun the wheels more than once pulling out into traffic and barely had my foot on the gas. Of coarse the light back end doesn't help matters...:rolleyes:
     
  6. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:33 PM
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    I don't have the answer to that. I just know we went for a drive and it was pretty bad. He even knows it too... Probably why he got such a good deal on it ha
     
  7. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM
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    Because its been out since the 80's.

    Honda has been doing DOHC Dual VVT (Vtec) since 1988.

    Toyota started with VVT in 1991.

    Honda started with VVTi (i-Vtec) in 2003

    Toyota Started with VVTi in 2005.


    Direct Injection is new "new" technology.
     
  8. Oct 13, 2012 at 7:36 PM
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    COP is fairly new technology.

    Really though you should never buy anything is you are worried about what the newer model has over what you got.
     
  9. Oct 13, 2012 at 8:08 PM
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    "Impressive" takes on a lot of metrics.

    The 4.0 is bulletproof and churns out a lot of torque. It's startlingly easy to maintain. You have your choice of Octanes.

    It is not a technological marvel, nor an extremely efficient or high-powered mill. But really, for my truck, I'm more concerned with durability and easy service.

    There are plenty of options out there for engines with the newest tech. The Toyobaru Scion FR-S and it's subie-sourced engine for one. Which is having a LOT of teething problems. New is not always better.
     
  10. Oct 13, 2012 at 8:17 PM
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    I drove a friends FR-S before he sold it. Both him and I agreed it was highly underpowered.

    My family sedan (VW GLI) Had gobs more power; albeit turbo. I even like my old Civic Si's 2.0L engine better.

    There is no way you can tell me that the dual VVT-i engine is going to be any less durable than the current version in the Tacoma, and it achieves something like 270hp and 290 trq?
     
  11. Oct 13, 2012 at 8:39 PM
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    yea i think my 1gr's power-band is broken. everybody with other motors talk about how there power-band kicks in between certain rpms, but mine seems to make the same power from idle to redline. gosh toyota when are you gunna get these things figured out? (insert sarcasm)
     
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    You're responding to a bunch of things I'm not talking about.

    Let me try to get more basic:

    "The 4.0 does a great job at the things I most want my truck engine to do a great job at. It's technology is not especially new and I don't care."

    Easier?
     
  13. Oct 13, 2012 at 8:48 PM
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    Ya , I was kinda kidding about the Hilux
     
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    :eek: my truck will take flight at those speeds
     
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    People forget, or maybe never realized, that one reason Toyota engines last so long is because they design them to run at low internal stress levels. That means a little less HP per cube. That's the way I would design one if I were doing it too. I think the 4.0 is a damn great engine in every way that counts. Where Toyota missed the boat I think is the gearing they offer. It's useless for truck purposes.

    As stated earlier, HP means nothing in a truck motor and comparing a truck motor to a sportscar motor is equally meaningless. A brand new Kenworth 12.9 liter engine puts out just 450 hp. Anybody thinks it's underpowered? :rolleyes:

    cars : trucks = apples : oranges
     
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    Hmmmmm. Maybe no lock? It is still a slow turd.:D
     
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    I understand why they did it, but that doesn't mean I like it any better. 4.56s on 33s is perfect. 4.0L Autos from factory would do well with 4.10s on 31s.

    Properly geared truck should be reluctant to go over 70mph IMO and have a beautiful under-10-mph crawl.
     
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