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Improving ride quality

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Taco4you2, Apr 28, 2022.

  1. Apr 29, 2022 at 4:21 AM
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    908tacoma

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    Not all true. Shocks do not lift the truck. The whole idea of several shock absorbers is to absorb impact better than OEM. As the above post mentions, digressive in particular.
     
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  2. Apr 29, 2022 at 7:35 AM
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    Idk, i've ridden in a buddies 2019 trd off road when he had it putting the truck back to all stock chit canning his 3'' lift. I couldn't tell any difference from his truck ride compared to my sr5 on the same roads. Only major differences, his was a double cab 5' bed and mine an access cab 6' bed with a tonneau cover....his bed was open.
     
  3. Apr 29, 2022 at 7:40 AM
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    Yep, spring are what hold up the truck. A gas charged shock only has a slight effect. Its all in the shocks compression, and rebound valving, that controls the rate a spring will collapse, and rebound.
     
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  4. Apr 29, 2022 at 7:57 AM
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    In stock form, these things have very little uptravel so its a given to slam the factory bumps. Stiffer shocks with stock uptravel would make it ride more like a brick.

    Op as stated above, throw some factory OR shocks on and get some sumo bumps or superbumps. The softer bump will be the best thing to soak the bumps, unless you lift it some to gain more uptravel.
     
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  5. Apr 29, 2022 at 8:16 AM
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    all i can say is I love my Eibach stage 1 set up on my SR. In the rear I have the wheelers 3 leaf AAL with the Overload left in. and I havent felt a single thing over bumps. especially in the rear. soaks it all right up. And I live in the land of the frost heave !
     
  6. Apr 29, 2022 at 8:55 AM
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    Weird. My coworker and I both got 21's and my offroad rode immensely better than her SR5. So much so that she - a person not into cars - bought my stock OR shocks and wheels\tires when I lifted because it made that big of a difference.
     
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  7. Apr 29, 2022 at 11:34 AM
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    I do not and did not disagree with that. The word shock does not even appear my post.
     
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  8. Apr 29, 2022 at 11:46 AM
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    I’m highly skeptical of this. How have you determined that you are hitting your bump stops?

    Bump stops are a primarily an oh-shit device to prevent metal on metal contact in the case of an emergency. You should never be contacting them during regular usage. If you are, something is wrong.

    Caveat: hydro bumps are different.
     
  9. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:00 PM
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    Sorry, you mentioned suspension “kits” and “individual suspension components”. Both of which one would believe include a shock in some way shape or form.
     
  10. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:04 PM
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    I agree that a shock absorber is indeed a suspension component, but I did not say it provided lift.
     
  11. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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    Bone stock I could bottom the truck out on command. In the rear of these trucks theres only maybe 3" of uptravel
    I determined it was bumps because when I would jump the truck/hit potholes/curbs when the truck was stock, I would easily eat up uptravel these have in the rear, and you definitely know you're on the stock bumps since they are rock hard. Bumps are not an "oh shit/emergency" classified thing. They are simply just a casual/normal part of any suspension system. With a higher uptravel number, yeah your shocks are tuned wrong if you are constantly at full bump with your normal driving. But stock, any firmed tuned shock would sacrifice the little travel on a daily driver and feel rough riding, so thats where adding soft bumps come into play on a stock truck.
     
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  12. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:14 PM
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    I do not consider jumping and driving over curbs at speed to be daily driving. I think you are a good candidate for hydro bumps. Lol
     
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  13. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:18 PM
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    As an aside, my (non-stock) suspension setup is capable of driving over curbs at 10mph or thereabouts with comfort and I have stock bump stops.
     
  14. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:31 PM
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    Come to Washington lol plenty of craters to hit daily driving :rofl: Bridges have holes in them, roads have craters, and the freeways have whoops. But atleast they sometimes put signs out to warn people about that stuff.

    And oh yeah nothing on my truck is non touched, have hydro bumps/16s in the rear with ~6" of uptravel

    Sweet! Its probably therfore lifted with more uptravel, and with better tuned shocks. OP was just asking about a better ride, which on the cheap would be factory Bilsteins and ~$200 bumpstops to aid the stock height suspension like thousands start off with.
     
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    Idk how the sr rides...haven't been in one, but my sr5 didn't ride very well the first year owned. It gradually got better where its not bad. I still think that heavy toyota tonneau cover has something to do with the ride compliance being better. My truck all stock sits perfectly level, where my buddies trd always looked high in the ass end.
     
  16. Apr 29, 2022 at 12:53 PM
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    Everyone seems to think they have unusually bad roads in their state. :)

    Yes I have a lift. I have King extended travel and Dakar mediums. It's in my profile.

    Out of curiosity I went down to the garage and measured my rear up travel. It was bit a chore holding my phone flashlight in one hand and a tape measure in the other while laying contorted on the ground, but I estimate 5" to the tip of the bump stop and 7" total. The last time I measured my hub to fender I was at 23.5" (about 1.5 over stock) at ride height and 28.5" at full droop. So 5-7 up and 5 down.

    I have not directly measured my up travel in front, but I based on my hub to fender measurement of 23" and my assumption of 5" stock up travel, I estimate it at 7". My down travel is 2", so 7 up and 2 down.

    This is all on the drivers side. Passenger side is sitting 0.5-1" higher.
     
  17. Apr 29, 2022 at 1:03 PM
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    My coworker has the SR5. Tho the standard SR likely has the same pretty terrible Hitachi shocks.The offroad has about a 1" lift in the rear vs the front, but the shocks don't change the height and all of these are on the same leaf packs. Crazy how much of a difference the shocks make on these trucks.
     
  18. Apr 29, 2022 at 1:29 PM
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    I have to disagree on these hitachi shocks. They seem to work ok on my truck. I had KYB's on the tundra...they were good also.
     
  19. Apr 29, 2022 at 1:29 PM
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    It shouldn't be. In simple terms they dampen movement..... stiffer or softer dampening should make a difference. The offroad sacrifices a little bit of handling to provide a better offroad ride.... why they are softer.
     
  20. Apr 29, 2022 at 1:34 PM
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    Not sure what you mean by the hitachi shocks are pencil thin...my sr5 is suppose to have them, but their bigger around than the kyb's on my old gen1 tundra.
     
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