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Intercooler pump relocation!!!

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by extremachn1, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. Apr 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM
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    Guys, has anyone with a 2nd gen TRD Supercharger had to relocate their intercooler pump after trying to install an aftermarket plate bumper and winch? I have a CBI and the intercooler pump seems to be in the way of the winch mounting location.

    It shouldnt be to hard, I was going to lower it about 4 inches which should not affect it at all.
     
  2. Apr 11, 2012 at 6:22 AM
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    I haven't put a new bumper on the front of mine yet but I had a feeling this would be an issue in the future.

    I don't see why moving it would be an issue, you just need to mount it somewhere strong enough to hold it and where the wiring and hoses will reach without kinking.
     
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    I also think you want to keep it as the lowest point in the system. This helps prevent air from getting into the pump. I will keep you posted on what I do for this.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2015 at 4:04 PM
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    What did you end up doing?
     
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    I think you'd be ok with mounting it higher in the case of getting air in the system, when you install it, you actually just fill it up and run the pump 'to remove air from the system' so its just going to circulate and pop the air out into the reservoir.
     
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    Yup. It's the reservoir that needs to be the highest point not the pump.
     
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    But I think it still has to be lower than the reservoir because the pump may not be strong on the suction side. So basically you can move it up just not too far up.
     
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    Right, I figure with a pump that small the NPSHa is almost non-existant. However, knowing that it can be moved and raised a bit helps with my decision to buy a winch.
     
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    Since we are on the intercooler subject, i have been wondering, how capable is our intercooler? I dont see any talk about people upgrading it. Which seems funny cause everyone on this site upgrades anything they can get their hands on. Im just curious as the mods go on, more heat will follow.
     
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    Most people go with meth/water injection at high boost because you need to cool the supercharger rotor tips to prevent them from overheating. The meth then cools the intake charge so a larger heat exchanger is not needed.
     
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    Ok cool, i have been heavily looking into that route anyways over the last month. I will probably go with aquamist later once i have my other mods installed in a few weeks. I can feel a major power difference here in the summmer. Im in maine and it will go from 55 in the morning with to 85 and humid in the day and i can feel the power drain away and then come back when the sun goes down.
     
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    On the subject of the pump, im guessing you could move it up in front of the intercool and be good, thats what ill probably end up having to do to get it out of the way of a bumper as well...

    As for temps, i notice a difference as well coming in to work in the afternoon vs lesving work at 5 AM, definitely a power boost!(no pun intended) I still need to get my pulley and headers on and go for a dyno run to see whats up, then i can decide to install my MAF calibrator or not as well as decide in water/meth injection or not.

    My only concerns with water/meth injection is i read somewhere that it can corrode your internals over times...any words on this?
     
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    As far as i understand it, if you keep the concentration low it wont be an issue. Seems to make sense to me.
     
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    As long as the pump has ample volume for suction, I think it would be okay. Like I said though, I seriously doubt that little thing has much in the way of NPSHa so the lower and less restricted the pump the better.

    Regarding the temps, its just like anything else with combustion engines: cooler ambient air = more efficiency thus power. Nature's CAI. That's why I can't wait till winter... Or what passes for winter down here.

    I understand the desire for methanol injection, but I would not run it in a daily driver. Too much risk of corroding the mild steel in the engine IMHO, and once corrosion begins, it's hell to pay. I'm sure there are those who say they have no problem, so to each their own.
     
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    I don't think there is mild steel anything in our engines.
     
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    Absolutely nothing? Nothing that methanol would corrode from methanol? I'm not being sarcastic, its a genuine question.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure what it will eat up but as far as mild steel goes, I don't think there is any in our engines. The cylinder liners might be steel but I don't know the grade.
     
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    Scratch that. I was wrong. Whoops.

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    Going to look into why people say methanol is corrosive. After thinking about it for a bit, I'm not sure why it would be.
     
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