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Investment BS Thread - Stocks/Futures/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Commodities/Options/ETFs/401ks/Etc

Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by ThunderOne, Feb 1, 2018.

  1. Jan 17, 2020 at 10:30 AM
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    Boyk1182

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    I would suggest getting a strategy formed and sticking to it. You're probably doing that right now, which is good.

    I lost a lot of money, like a whole lot, because I didn't really have a strategy when I started investing. Since I figured out what I want to do, I have recovered the loss and and up quite a bit.

    I think investing without a plan is just going to get someone's money transferred to patient hands. You gotta be the patient hands!
     
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  2. Jan 17, 2020 at 10:50 AM
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    My strategy is 2 sided, the main side is slowly put money into the account for shares in large companies such as F,T, GE, C, KDP, and others when they appear to be a decent or better buy.
    The other side is to keep ~$50 in smaller stocks that aren’t (in my opinion) long term and buy low, sell high (assuming they make it high) or have a stop loss setup.
    The buy low sell high is mainly a “keep busy” type of deal, at work we can have lots of dead time so I can sit and watch the stocks, Unlike my co-workers I don’t play the lotto so short stocks are like my version of the lotto but with (theoretically) higher chances of break even or gain even though the gain is slight (pennies) at the volume/cost I deal with.

    But I do want to continually evolve my strategy.

    I’m really disappointed that I didn’t invest in AMD a year ago when I told my parents to, I figured I was too young (22) to get into stocks but if I had invested just $200 I would be up quite a bit today.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2020 at 10:54 AM
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    That sounds good actually.

    I bet if you track the 2 sides, the boring one where you just bought more and more will highly outperform the fun side. That's just something I have found out over the last few years, the more boring and less transactions, the better it will probably do. A portfolio is like a bar of soap, the more you mess with it, the smaller it will become.

    I know many disagree so there will always be short sellers and traders. I figure they're the ones that give me the gains!
     
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  4. Jan 17, 2020 at 11:03 AM
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    95 taco

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    I also believe that my “fun” side won’t be very productive but I see it as learning potential as well as a good way to stay busy during business hours.
    I could also be very lucky and hit the next Ebay or Amazon but I think there are low odds of that with the current market strength (as well as consumer strength) of Amazon.
    Without looking at their stocks I think Ebay is already on its way out with the influx of FB marketplace, Letgo, and OfferUp.
     
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  5. Jan 17, 2020 at 1:40 PM
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    bloodbath today. Closed at its low for the day and its low since 2016 - $1.996
     
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  6. Jan 17, 2020 at 2:18 PM
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    Buying opportunity or falling knife?
     
  7. Jan 17, 2020 at 3:29 PM
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    Wish I knew the answer :notsure:
     
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  8. Jan 17, 2020 at 4:16 PM
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    Yea dumb question. You know more than I do about that so figured I’d ask anyway.
     
  9. Jan 17, 2020 at 5:39 PM
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    I've been averaging down, so I'm really hoping we are finally at "buying opportunity" but I somehow remain cautiously optimistic considering the warmer weather trends and lackluster demand this year. There are a lot of short bets as well as long bets so there's a lot of drama right now
     
  10. Jan 17, 2020 at 5:41 PM
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    Is there a specific ticker you use?
     
  11. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:26 PM
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    UNG, UGAZ and DGAZ are all natgas related
     
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    Would you be able to point me in the direction of buying commodities? I am not sure where to look or go to.
     
  13. Jan 20, 2020 at 6:23 AM
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    I'm unsure what you're asking?
     
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    I usually go ETFs instead of going to Forex or something of that nature.
     
  15. Jan 20, 2020 at 11:02 AM
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    Btw, Customers Bank Ascent account has 2.25% APY locked in until June 30 2020.

    https://www.customersbank.com/ascent/

    In the age of QE and ZIRP, this is about the best you'll get for a savings acct..
     
  16. Jan 21, 2020 at 8:40 AM
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    So I decided to grab some shares of QYLD Friday for my Roth IRA and I'm glad I did, because the monthly dividend was announced today instead of tomorrow like I thought it was going to be. This fund is a little higher risk but the yield is around 9-10% so I want to give it a shot for a while. The price was higher than I would have liked but rolling over some 401K into the Roth in January gives me a full year of dividends before I have to pay the income tax on it.
     
  17. Jan 21, 2020 at 8:55 AM
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    The S&P's average annual return from 1957 to 2018 is 7.96%. If you can stomach some volatility, and just DRIP, this fund will beat the "market" over time. It may not seem like it as the share price stays flat for decades, but it should beat the market. Capital appreciation would be a bonus!
     
  18. Jan 21, 2020 at 11:39 AM
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    Natgas is below $2.. I feel bad if you don't buy any. Record shorts by managed money.. blood is in the streets. Look at daily or even monthly candle charts.. we are at/near the bottom folks
     
  19. Jan 21, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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    What platform are you guys using to trade? I have Charles Schwab for my roth IRA and 401k, but I am looking to invest some of my savings in the market. TD Ameritrade? Robinhood? Should I stick to Schwab?
     
  20. Jan 21, 2020 at 12:26 PM
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    I've been using Robinhood and Webull.
    I like the idea of having instant control over my investments.... for free.... on my phone.
    Whether or not that's actually a good thing remains to be seen :D
     
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