Investment BS Thread - Stocks/Futures/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Commodities/Options/ETFs/401ks/Etc

That would hand the entire civilian side of the industry to Airbus. I'm not a fan of bailouts or unlimited QE, but there is no chance that Boeing will be left to fail.

 

They won’t be left to fail, but they aren’t too big to fail, is all I’m saying.

the facilities are there it would take a while but they would put together another company probably under similar leadership or something similar legally. And a lot of people would be out a job, they employ a loooot of people not just in Seattle. I’m not advocating to put people out, but no company should be too big to fail. The aero industry would be turned on its head. I’d probably jump ship to vehicle

 

Yes they are.

 

Explain how an airline, or any business, can plan for a complete shut off of income for multiple months and still survive? I guarentee the internet Warren buffets in this thread could barely weather that storm without either moving back in with their parents or suspending their plans to move out or completely folding. The economic fallout would be huge, United airlines is the largest private employer in the city of chicago. They are talking 50% layoffs and the rest of the staff would get a 50% paycut, all because of something 100% out of their control that they had zero say in. If this was due to mismanagement of money, I would be singing a different tune. There are multiple small manufacturing companies tied to support them that are laying off people and closing up shop. Also have fun paying $1100 for a one way redeye for basic economy from chicago to newark on the one airline left after this due to no competition.

Boeing should not get anything, they make the damn f18, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

I agree though that banks should absolutely not get anything.

People who think this will be a speed bump on the road here are smoking crack, and please give me some.

 

It’s a speed bump if you only invest money you don’t need.

 

If you think this market will be at 2019 levels in our lifetimes you are nuts. Each day this marches on we are closer and closer to not pulling out of it.

 

Haha it will be back to those levels soon. Or not. Doesn’t matter, I just want my dividends!

 

I wouldn't even count on those man, seriously.

 

Not everybody flips stocks. I like low prices.

In all honesty, I think this is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. I think it will be back to 2019 levels within 2 years (but probably much sooner).

 

I hope.you are right. I'm seeing this as a reversal of proples way of life for a very long time.

This stock run up was based on stock buybacks and company's using credit for evreything. It was artificial.

I think the prices are still way too high to buy. I wouldn't even be looking until stocks are back down to 2008-2009 levels.

 

I agree that it was a bit overinflated. Won’t argue that. I just don’t think this is going to cause any long term harm. It will be brutal for a while, then snap back and we are on to panicking about the next crisis.

 

You have people in this thread clamoring to end the exact method used to inflate the market. That's going to gain steam pretty quickly in the public eye, especially if a few more companies start to go tits up.

This is past panicking, this is doing long term irreversible harm to peoples way of life and making a living.

 

Yea I see that.

I hope I’m wrong, and the market stays depressed for a few years. I’m still aggressively buying, and very diversified, I want to buy 4% yields instead of 2% yields on Blue Chips. My strategy doesn’t involve selling so keep it down as long as possible!

 

It’s going to be ok.

 

The real magic of long term investing is compound interest ! Surprised I haven't seen that mentioned ?! Every bear is Doom and Gloom and every bull is the greatest thing since sliced bread while the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

 

Could go either way imo. Like i said a couple weeks ago we have had a few entirely new industries and some serious growth in others so the is legitimate growth in the market this past decade. However @slander makes a very valid point here that probably an equal amount of the market might not be out of the 2008 recession levels still and have just been propped up by the fed, buybacks, undeserving bailouts, bad loans, nonsensical subsidy plans. Sorry for politics but the govt is screwing us sideways here mannnnnn

 

That’s me with reinvesting dividends.

What is this interest you speak of? Where can I find that these days?

 

I was thinking the same thing.

My 1.5 alley high yield account is looking pretty attractive...for now. I expect that to be whittled down pretty soon.

 

Yea I'm sure that'll start dropping any day. My cap1 was at 1.5 last week, now its down to 1.3 and I expect it to go below 1 shortly.

 

Those are great rates for right now, higher than probably every treasury note yield. I’d park money there if I had the option.