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Investment BS Thread - Stocks/Futures/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Commodities/Options/ETFs/401ks/Etc

Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by ThunderOne, Feb 1, 2018.

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  1. May 8, 2018 at 10:26 AM
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    Who knows how this will end :notsure:... for a bit we thought we were gonna have nuclear war with NK, that turned around quick. Hopefully the same happens with Iran and they get their act together :fingerscrossed:
    the tough politics has worked so far
     
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  2. May 8, 2018 at 10:28 AM
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    Eh, it's still on topic of the market. We will def see some changes in oil prices... not sure if good or bad. Hell, we were exporting the stuff recently!
     
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  3. May 8, 2018 at 10:39 AM
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    yeah, but everyone's trying to make money.. so it's a delicate ballet when dealing with OPEC and other players. It's all about the profits.
     
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    I think OPEC finally realized its way better for them financiallyto throttle back on production slightly and in return have the price of oil more than double than it is for them to flood the market to keep out Western oil producers like the US.

    I’ll be very happy if oil continues to get more expensive considering the entire state of Alaska is almost entirely dependent on oil and when the oil prices plummet so does our economy. $4/gal gas is fine by me if it means I still have a job :laugh:
     
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    If we tried to do that OPEC would just go back to flooding the markets so much that it becomes impossible for US drillers to make any money since the cost to get oil out of the ground is significantly higher here in the US
     
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  6. May 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM
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    UK yield curve between 30 yr and 50 yr has now inverted.

    CAN yield curve between 20 yr and 30 yr has now inverted.

    Guess who's next...

    Right now the spread between US 10 yr and 30 yr is only 15 bps away from inverting.

    Also, the last time the UK yield curve inverted was in 2008. Guess what happened a year later here in the US?

    https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...=64c4eca8fe9be6c75d9bcbc1d92a1079&action=view
     
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    I thought we were most concerned with 2/10 year relationship? Since that is what inverted several months before the crash, several times.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yield curve as of may 1st
    upload_2018-5-9_14-44-41.jpg
     
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    compared with jan 01 2018, it looks like the spread may have reduced a tiny bit, but as a whole rates have increased. checking muh math.
     
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    upload_2018-5-9_14-52-41.jpg

    Dipped below 50 BP a week-ish ago. Still have a long way to go considering the rates were almost exactly 50 BP in Jan.

    You know what I find funny? The rates spread a little after the Feb market correction.
     
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    I think the fed is more interested and concerned in the 10/30 yr. They hope people would be willing to lock their money away for 30 yrs, which will help delay the default.

    Problem is, who in their right mind would buy a 30 yr bond if you would get the same return for only keeping it in for 10 yrs.
     
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    Same goes for 2/10 year. I don't really care what the Fed is concerned with.. they weren't concerned when the curve inverted in 2008, either.
     
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    clearly any of the fed's models and policies are so wrong, they are constantly chasing their tail.

    :goingcrazy:
     
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    massive bond buying going on this morning, trying to suppress the rates below 3%, also hoping to prop up the stock market.
     
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    where do you get this info?
     
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    I get a lot of market info from Greg Mannarino. He has some good tools on his website:

    https://www.traderschoice.net/

    He posts videos twice a day (at market open, and again after market closes).

    On the right side, he shows the bond market (BND). He stresses how important it is to watch the bond market, and the manipulation that the fed tries to create to prop up the bond market if selloffs occur, or in an effort to keep rates suppressed, or to signal equity (stocks) pressure.

    In the middle of the page, he has a great interactive chart. You can input any symbol into it and see trending of the stock price, volume, and the stochastic RSI (if a particular stock is oversold/overbought). This seems to be a good indicator for trading and to see when patterns shift.
     
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    This week has been great, I have made up for the last couple of bad weeks and then some!
     
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    Symantec down 35% today... a buy?
     
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