Investment BS Thread - Stocks/Futures/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Commodities/Options/ETFs/401ks/Etc

Just curious, do you know what his average annual return is for a long time period? I’m not bashing money managers (they know more than me), but wondering if these tactics beat buying and holding SPY for a few decades.

 

It averages about 10% over long time periods (30+ years). I don’t own it though, my strategy isn’t to beat the market.

Edit: It averaged 8.93% since its inception in 1993.

 

Got it!!

Just want to make sure we arent in some negativity cycle where the stock market drops less than 5% in a week and the stores empty out and the worlds ending again LOL!!

I'm now employed in supply chain for a consumer staple retailer so at least I wont have to worry about my paycheck going away regardless of what happens. They have been putting up record numbers month after month volume wise.

 

Yea stores wiped i dont think is happening again.

 

When interviewing this guy his last 10 yrs cont to beat dow by an avg 8 % ... and for the record it is very rare that he advise a stop loss sell. He also stays away from option trading and is a lic CFP. Pretty sure the plandemic scare is a culprit he thinks will rear its head again. Eerie times but he does not try to time markets and even warned that if sells happen ....could get back in at higher price. iow, no guarantees that a dip then quick rise could happen. But can you imagine losing 50 % and then waiting for a decade bear or longer to make back to today ?? !!

 

He sounds legit and honest, not much more you can ask for in someone managing money.

As a dividend investor, I’d welcome a decade bear market with deals and no plan to sell!

 

I wouldn't welcome it and at a 50% loss (or more) the divs (of the stocks that could actually sustain them) would be small. Agree in theory though ... still best srtategy in my mind.

 

It won’t happen. The March drop was our once in a decade crash. It will be smooth sailing for another 10 years or so until the next crash.

 

Hope so but be prepared just in case ...there are people who want to wreck the usa way...no names needed. smh

 

So.... Up or Down today?

















































































Yes.

 

Both for sure

 

Depends what he's charging for fund management. For example, VTI is a managed index fund of stocks. From Jan 2010 to Jan 2019 it went up 14.5%/year.

Now, as I actually pull numbers....DJIA in that same timeframe was 26%/year.

So. Yeah. Maybe stick with him then.

I think we'll still see some rough times in the next, I dunno, 6-12 months. Not nearly as bad as March, we might see a correction here and there. The pandemic hit already happened, recovery with that factored in happened. I think we might see a few times here and there where something happens (IE October, airlines go uh-oh, maybe people pull back on spending and Amazon doesn't hit Q4 targets, etc). But no landslide level "shit your pants" moments. That's my take.

 

Oh for sure. People have to remember that 5% corrections happen on average 3x a year. I don’t know why there’s so much panic every time it happens (not you, just in general):

 

dead cat bounce

 

ugh maybe im wrong lock down rumors europe...

 

“Loo roll” ugh Brits amirite?

 

yea rumored lockdowns again...

 

How's your mum, is she your favourite?

 

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That's because those silly folk tried to kill the first wave. Now they have a 2nd wave. We were smart enough to accidentally let the first wave hang around all summer, and need not worry about a 2nd wave. Maybe?