Ironman 4x4 Foam Cell Pro

Also. If you go to the iron man website, look at the page for rear shocks on a tacoma. They actually have the nomenclature of the front shocks posted "Threaded height adjustable strut spring seat". Its like they didnt even bother to write the posting different knowing that rear tacoma shocks dont go with coil springs.

Let me be clear, I'm not bashing. I'm simply pointing out issues that make me question.

 

I just bit the bullet and ordered their Stage 2 kit with Performance coils (0-110lbs front extra load) and Constant load rear leaf pack (440lbs+ rear extra load). I figure I can always remove a rear leaf if it's too stiff.

I'll keep you guys posted.

 

https://ironman4x4america.com/toyota-tacoma-2005-rear-shock-foam-cell-pro/ Show me? This is what I see. Am I missing something? Are you clicking on the wrong thing? Obviously just a troll who has never/will never buy a product that doesn't have big ass stickers that comes with it in every package/needs to be rebuilt or leaks within 6 months.

TOYOTA TACOMA 2005+ REAR SHOCK - FOAM CELL PRO
PRODUCT SPECIFICATION
The Ironman 4x4 Foam Cell Pro features include:

• 2.8" outer body diameter
• Chrome hardened piston rod
• 1/8" exterior tube wall thickness
• 360 degree welded mounts
• Rebuildable design
• Integrated bump stop (on applicable models)
• Single piece solid mounting base
• Solid one piece eye ring
• Twin Tube Construction
• Foam Cell Design

 

Then they literally just removed it. I'm not seeing it now either. And I'm suddenly a troll because I'm not sucking a manufacturers dick on a product they are pushing?? Get over yourself man. We are ALL entitled to our opinions and that's exactly what I'm stating.

Edit: I have no reason to lie. Check with other members here, I dont troll, I simply state facts or my opinion. You dont like it, then move somewhere that doesnt allow people to have opinions

 

Not really a troll but you need to understand almost all suspension companies have pretty crappy websites. King is the gold standard and their site sucks pretty bad. Not sure why you’re connecting poor website with poor performance as there is really no correlation. People are telling you it’s a good product and you’re upset because they give a CGI breakdown and don’t explain it all in kids words. If you act completely biased then it’s natural for people to assume you’re trolling

 

No I definitely understand crappy websites. But I wasnt using that as my main point as to being withdrawn from the product. It was just something I noticed. I'm not against these shocks necessarily. I personally dont think I'd use them based of what research I've done.

But I'm also not saying that anyone who uses them is wrong. Not at all. I feel people should use any product they want or feel comfortable with. And again I'm not bashing the product. Not once did I say they suck or they are wrong or even that its inferior. I'm simply stating what worries me as a consumer and why I PERSONALLY have issues

 

I get that. I honestly think these are a great option for 99% of dudes, I may have even gone this route if they didn’t have a picture of the Incredible Hulk on em.

 

Yes completely agree. I'd actually love for more users to get them on so we could get more feedback on real world use.

I dont feel that companies reviews on them are helpful because a majority of the time, they sell the product, so they are less likely to give completely honest feedback

 

It just kills me how that member could possibly even conceive me being a troll. Why? Because I'm going against the established norm here? Because I'm taking the time to do a little research and talk about it? Because I'm pointing out some small but valid issues? Ridiculous.

 

I don’t really have feedback on the Tacoma but my buddy installed a set yesterday on a Prado. Owner rode in a land cruiser equipped with them and loved them so he had my buddy get a set for him. TBH I haven’t heard a single bad thing about them performance-wise. Lots of people don’t like the green though

 

Yeah visual they are meh, but my shocks are usually so dirty that most people wouldnt know what brand they are anyway lol

 

If a person comes to a thread just to say negative things they get called a troll. In your mind you’re helping bring awareness to issues that concern you but to most others you’re just polluting their “safe space thread”. I’ve stuck to only commenting positive things unless I have real world issues with things based on personal experiences. If you don’t have that firsthand info lots of people think you’re a Hater. Just the way forums are sadly!

 

Yeah, I've noticed, but it is what it is. Either way, I'd love more feedback on these shocks. From regular people. I personally hate my 6112s. So I'm always open to something else usually

 

Dobinson is hard to beat for the money

 

I had my trepidations about them because I stick to the Tacoma community. However, I found a lot of the Land Cruiser guys have run them over on IH8MUD and the very few somewhat independent reviews also seemed to favor them, so I am willing to eventually bet on their stuff.

What I haven't found are any glaring red flags (website marketing material aside) that would come from users dissatisfied and trumpeting loudly.

I love me some ADS shocks, but the money for the shocks and coilovers alone is a lot to ask for a guy like me. Foam Cells promise of little to no fade is attractive for it's price.

I wish some other Aussie Foam Cells were available stateside, like the Tough Dog stuff, as those are supposed to be the top.

 

Really not being a dick, here's my take on the situation. There's a lot more information out there than you've let on to being available and right off the bat most of us knew better so we just let you talk, like the other guy before you claiming to have not been able to find what's available but somewhat scattered between the different branches of the brand, 4x4 America seems to be the newest. Seems pretty clear to some of us you haven't actually done your homework or you'd know more about the product and company you have so much doubt/ suspicion of. I think you should have actually done a legit dive into what's available before assuming and claiming otherwise. You've made more than enough inaccurate and contradictory statements proving you haven't done your homework or at least not as much as some/ most of us here. Talking about the ads are cheesy, ok and? it's too pricey ( to almost immediately have to ask what the price was) claiming a lack of reputation that it was too new and hokey like the other guy said from before just to find out they have 60 yrs in the game, that they aren't this that and the other. Made silly blanket statement about them not to being as good an option as traditional brands/ setups however you phrased it because of how we use our trucks, you know because we all use our trucks the same way in the same terrain, why wouldn't we go with a more popular choice as if we haven't already looked down those routes too. Claiming that they can't or how could they possibly hold that much more oil if any, you said just do the math, that you obviously didn't do yourself but said because it sounds good, they can't/ couldn't do a better job than a traditional setup and a couple other things like that, doubt about the foam quality and breakdown that'd already been disproven gine and time again, years ago and very readily available had you seeked out the answers and facts to your position. There's other threads if not several around providing around 5+ yrs of the real world reviews on foam cell systems and ironman that you claim to desire but couldn't find, mostly positive minus the normal complaints about paint/ rust issues like any brand. We have one guy on this thread specifically with several years of first hand experience you blew off. You just gotta actually look for the info and stop claiming to know more than you do when it's obvious to several of us you don't. No one called you out, acted like a dick, everyone let you talk, assume and presume your position. No one said you couldn't have an opinion. That's probably why someone would perceive you as a troll and you not be capable of understanding how or why not because " you won't suck some manufacturers dick" which is hilariously stupid because you know that's exactly how they came to that conclusion and not the fact that much of your position is void of the actual facts and mostly just speculation. Making statements that's like a question but it's really not a question, acting like we are uninformed dumbasses duped by cheesy ads like the guy before you did and percieved. I don't think this is a safe space thread issues. It's probably more your preception of the situation and line of loaded question with follow up statements or responses that contradict or disprove your previous claims has likely seeded doubt in your position all together. There's been more holes from assumptions and presumption in your statements, claims than anything worth seriously considering, simple as that. I agree, the information seems lacking maybe vague. Presentation is probably lacking and cheesy bug green guy, so what. I agree everyones entitled to their own opinion. I think you should actually call, email the company and ask them everything you desire instead of coming here being more one sided and seemingly blindly oppositional than unbiased and open minded. Here's one more piece to cover part of your inquiry and there's plenty more material and videos covering several years and continents of Ironman4x4s reputation. https://youtu.be/Cdwwve5of18

 

Lots of assumptions you're making there about my statements which if you would go back and read, are not nearly the case. You're attempting to make it sound like I was belittling individuals who were interested in the product which is no way shape or form was the case. You're making the statement that I'm claiming that users here are "uninformed dumbasses", please, show me where I even implied that?

Secondly, I've done plenty or research and yes acknowledged that foam cell shocks have been around for a while. I stated THESE particular shocks have not. I've even done some research on the brands from Austria. But as you know, not all manufacturers make produce products the same. I'll also add that I stated multiple times (if you read in detail) that a majority of what I was saying was my opinion, seems you gotta stress that in every single post you make on this forum. Never stated I was an expert.

And as to your comment about my "math" in regards to oil capacity. It wasnt necessarily my math, but check with most manufacturers as you stated I do. A 2.5 mono shock holds more oil. The twin tube design with foam (which doesn't absorb the oil) does not hold more oil than a monotube even with it's slightly expanded shock body. By design.

And as for my "blanket statement" about other shocks being better or just as good, please, again, read it in detail. If you did, you would realize that my statement wasnt anywhere near what you're saying.

I'll end this by saying, use whatever shock you want, it doesnt affect me in anyway. Better yet, assume I'm here to troll or cause drama, again, doesnt affect me. But dont come here losely reading my posts, and assume you know even a little of what I'm getting across, because clearly you misread pretty much everything I wrote.

 

LOL, hey whatever you say, enjoy the intellectual dishonesty. you've been called out and debunked, had to back track, assumed members positions because that's what you've proven to do then get butt hurt and tell them to move somewhere else but sure I'm assuming and in need of more knowledge on the subject. I'm so lost in the sauce, cool story bro.

 

@ColoradoHoosier sir, how much lift with the performance coil in the front??? they stated performance coil for those with steel bumper or so related, how's the ride for daily drive???

 

I've been looking at these foam cell pros also, went to thier web page to the technical section can't seem to see any guide instructions for setting the desired lift. I think they market them at like a 2" to 3" lift. Maybe one could do a 1" with how they have the perch adjustment. And later down the road install larger tires and increase without a whole lot of work.