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Is the government watching TW?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by TacoDawgfan, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM
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    TacoDawgfan

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    http://blogs.computerworld.com/17165/eff_warns_big_brother_wants_to_be_your_friend

    Looking to expand your social network? Big Brother wants to be your buddy. Yes, the gang of three or four letter national intelligence agencies are all out there. How many of your "friends" do you really know? How members do you "know" in those Facebook groups? Did you see a video that you really liked on YouTube and then subscribed? Are there so many friends, subscriptions, groups, photos, comments or tweets that is it hard to immediately recall all? Never fear cause the government knows and has clickable maps of social networks to include all friends, followers, and subscriptions. Mapping helps law enforcement obtain more information from "friends" and business associations.

    Through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), the EFF requested documents on the use of social network surveillance from various law enforcement agencies. Some government agencies endorse using security exploits to access protected information. Security exploits were not the only covert practice endorsed in the government's disclosures. For example, DEA documents (PDF) mention the ability to potentially "recover ‘private' content only shared among those chosen by the page owner." In another document, the FBI Intelligence Information Report Handbook (PDF), mentions using "covert accounts" to access protected information.

    Recently, the EFF heard back from the Office of Fraud Detection and National Security (FDNS). And if you know someone that wants to apply for citizenship, then oh yes, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and DHS (PDF) want to be their "friend." The EFF stated, "the citizenship verification initiative is perhaps the most disconcerting, both for its assumptions about people who use social networking sites and for its potentially deceptive and unethical approach to collecting information."

    According to the USCIS documents, its agents will attempt to "friend" you and monitor for evidence of possible fraud.

    "Narcissistic tendencies in many people fuels a need to have a large group of 'friends' link to their pages and many of these people accept cyber-friends that they don't even know. This provides an excellent vantage point for FDNS to observe the daily life of beneficiaries and petitioners who are suspected of fraudulent activities. Generally, people on these sites speak honestly in their network because all of their friends and family are interacting with them via lM's (Instant Messages), Blogs (Weblog journals), etc. This social networking gives FDNS an opportunity to reveal fraud by browsing these sites to see if petitioners and beneficiaries are in a valid relationship or are attempting to deceive [United States Citizen and Immigration Services] about their relationship. Once a user posts online, they create a public record and timeline of their activities. In essence, using MySpace and other like sites is akin to doing an unannounced cyber "site-visit" on a [sic] petitioners and beneficiaries."

    The CIA social networking documents (PDF) revealed that the CIA likes to monitor YouTube for online intelligence. The CIA's Open Source Center also collects information from blogs, chat rooms, social networking sites, radio and television programs. DHS released a slide presentation (PDF) about monitoring social networks before the 2009 Inauguration. The Secret Service Internet Use Policy (PDF) recommends that agents avoid leaving "electronic footprints" and to use "stand-alone" computers with "anonymous accounts from an ISP" during surveillance.

    According to EFF, "The DEA presentation also appears to condone the use of security exploits to collect information, including MySpace Private Picture Viewer, a website tool that was once able to access private information on MySpace and arguably violated MySpace's Terms of Service." The DEA (PDF) monitors for fugitives and known associates.

    In another FBI document (PDF), FBI emails showed an interest in the University of Arizona's Dark Web Project. EFF reported that the Dark Web Project is an attempt to send spiders to search all forums and find all hidden websites in the "corners of the Internet" and to "systematically collect and analyze all terrorist-generated content on the Web."

    Other released documents on social networking policies came from the Department of Justice, Criminal Division, Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (PDF). The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) released an old 2008 study on the potential of Internet searches in government security clearances (PDF). The EFF has several policies (PDF), manual excerpts (PDF) and "Internet Research Tools" (PDF) that were released by the IRS.

    Most all government agencies spy on Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, YouTube and so many other online social media sites. If government intelligence agents are not yet one of your social networking friends, they would like to be. But be careful what you post, cause law enforcement is watching, listening, recording, linking, mapping and social engineering. You can be careful, but if a friend of friend comments unwisely, you too might end up with a "borrowed" government issued GPS tracking device spying on you.
     
  2. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    jgwheeler17

    jgwheeler17 I'm a zit. Get it?

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    2 guests watching. :spy:
     
  3. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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    If they are watching, then maybe they can answer this for me, whats in area 51 you sneaky government bastards?
     
  4. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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    *shuts off computer and puts on tin foil hat*
     
  6. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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    tacomaprerunner Dang liberals.

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    I hear that's where the mods are from...
     
  7. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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  8. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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    jgwheeler17

    jgwheeler17 I'm a zit. Get it?

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    +1 for the lol. :laugh:
     
  9. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:50 AM
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    If this is surprising, you might be a little out of touch with reality.

    To what extent the Government is monitoring TW. Who knows, but it would be wise to watch what one posts online.
     
  10. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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    Meh, in a way I don't mind them looking at say a terrorist group, using a social network to pass info. I have nothing to hide, and if they looked into me for anything, they would quickly see, there is nothing to look at. So I say, whatever.
     
  11. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:54 AM
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  12. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:57 AM
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    If it makes you feel better, this will be challenged in court soon.

    You wouldn't believe how many dope- slinging homeboys with warrants went out and bought caddies and tahoes with their dope money, and were impressed by how they could call Onstar every time they locked their keys in their whip, and how Onstar could unlock the door, shut the car off, etc.

    Then they couldn't understand how the cops caught up to em, and just as they were deciding whether or not to gun it and run, their car shut off. They couldn't believe that the popo was trackin em through Onstar.

    Understand something, terrorists and criminals ate always trying to stay ahead of the game- and the government is always going to think of ways to keep the pace.
     
  13. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:57 AM
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    BlackSeven Grab your helmet, this shits about to get retarded

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    Here's a hint. The Government doesn't need to be your friend. Facebook, Google, and your cell phone provider (among others) cooperate no questions asked with law enforcement. Knowingly and unknowingly. Search warrant or not, the Patriot Act gives the Government unlimited access to all information in the name of the Global War on Terrorism.

    But, believe it or not, the Government teaches classes (Provided by lawyers specializing in the field) on the ethics and legal issues behind computer security, network administration and investigation of criminals that utilize computers to commit crimes. It's a very very interesting class.
     
  14. Feb 12, 2012 at 10:58 AM
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    It's not that we as mod's who are employed by the Government are watching for anything because we aren't.

    It's more of, what goes online stays there and since TW is privately owned it's still a public forum and as anything else that's public open to anyone for surveillance.
     
  15. Feb 12, 2012 at 11:00 AM
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    jgwheeler17 I'm a zit. Get it?

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    ^^^ what it really boils down to for me too.
     
  16. Feb 12, 2012 at 11:02 AM
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    Shit, Toytota watches these sites, like TW. I think they get alot of design ideas from sites like this. For example. BHLM.. Toyota puts headlights on Tacoma with a "tinted" surround. Hmmmm.
     
  17. Feb 12, 2012 at 11:04 AM
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  18. Feb 12, 2012 at 11:05 AM
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    TacoDawgfan

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    True, but do I really want Uncle Sam knowing when I take a dump or go to eat at Outback steakhouse? :rolleyes: Apparently my FB friends do.
     
  19. Feb 12, 2012 at 11:07 AM
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    You post on facebook when your in the shitter?
     
  20. Feb 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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    TacoDawgfan

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    That was sarcasm, I see people post basically their entire lives on FB.
     
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