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Is there a better-than-OEM throw out bearing available?

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by 0uTkAsT, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. Jul 22, 2011 at 6:23 PM
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    I know there's a lot of threads about our crap clutches and crap TOB's but I'm really sick of my slipping, clattering, clunky clutch and I can't seem to find any aftermarket TOB's for us 2TR guys. I'm going to be replacing everything short of the flywheel and I'd rather not throw a junk TOB (that may or may not last another 40k miles) back in it if possible.

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. Jul 22, 2011 at 10:12 PM
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    idk my truck is pretty much new 6k on the odo.

    lol i'm ready to say fuck it and replace everything as well it sounds and feels like shit i agree its the only real thing about the truck i hate.
     
  3. Jul 22, 2011 at 11:13 PM
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    Yeah, mine just hit 44k and it drives, feels, and sounds like shit. The clutch slips pretty bad, makes a ton of rattling noises, shifts really clunky (particularly with the A/C on) and sometimes I'll even have to step on the clutch multiple times to get it to start. It's amazing to me how crappy the clutches (and associated parts) are in these trucks considering how top-notch everything else is. My last 5-speed truck (a Dakota) put down almost 400 ft-lbs of torque through the stock clutch for 105,000 miles before it died, and I beat the shit out of that thing on a daily basis.
     
  4. Jul 23, 2011 at 10:37 PM
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  5. Jul 23, 2011 at 10:41 PM
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    mine is so loud with the hot weather we are having its retarded there has to be something wrong with it. it is with out a doubt the worst sounding thing on any vehicle i have ever owned!

    mine is loud and gets louder as you drive it and things heat up. it's so loud it's actually got me worried that i'm doing some type of damage to the truck it self.
     
  6. Jul 24, 2011 at 11:41 AM
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    By loud are you referring to the "diesel" noise at idle with the clutch out or does yours make noise as you're driving? Mine does the "diesel" thing and rattles a bit while accelerating (almost sounds like it's running on bad gas). Also, I get this high-pitched, intermittent "hum" which becomes more of a "grinding" sound that comes from the trans tunnel when I'm decelerating in 4th or 5th gear from 75-55 MPH. It, too, gets worse as the truck heats up. I'd take a video, but it's extremely hard to hear it over my fart can.
     
  7. Jul 24, 2011 at 2:26 PM
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    i thought the TOB issues was only for the 6 SPD M/T guys ? I am at 6K and no issues yet!
     
  8. Jul 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    Have you looked into seeing if the URD TOB kit would work on your 5 speed?
     
  9. Jul 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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    They're for the 4.0/6-speed trucks only.
     
  10. Jul 24, 2011 at 7:49 PM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    Who did you verify that with?

    Easy way to verify is put a 5 Speed TO bearing next to a 6 speed one..if input shaft diameter is same..it'll work.


    Why don't you have a spacer machined out like the URD sells for your 5 speed? If your transmission is designed similar with the same problem..


    and I never even heard of the 5speed 05+ having TO problems :confused:
     
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    I don't know how you never heard of them having problems, I know 6 guys on here who have either replaced them multiple times or are about to. I got the info from URD, who said they fit the 6-speed only. And I don't have a 5-speed TOB laying around to compare to a 6-speed TOB. I might be able to stop at my dealer to compare the two parts sometime this week.
     
  12. Jul 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM
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    I got the same problem, TOB was shit. Sounded horrible and was embarrassing
     
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    I only follow the 6 speed problems because my father has an X-Runner.


    I don't really follow 2nd Gen trucks in general..they are pieces. In my opinion.
    but I won't start that war.

    I'm just trying to help you out man, and good idea on stopping in at the dealer...

    If they are different, like I said..you might be able to machine a sleeve or have a sleeve machined..if you could somehow get ahold of a input shaft from one of the 5 speeds to give to machine shop.
    That's if the 5 speeds have the same problem wise as the 6 speeds..where the side load of bearing shifts..causing the abnormal wear(which is what happens to the TO bearings and then they go becauseof that)


    It'd be a good R&D project for you 5 speed guys if you have the time and funds...:)
     
  14. Jul 25, 2011 at 1:01 AM
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    mine sounds off when the ac compressor is cycled on and the truck is in neutral with my foot of the clutch. so sitting in my drive way if i start her up and turn the air on the noise starts and it gets significantly louder as the truck reaches operating temp. press the foot in on the clutch and it stops foot off the noise just commences once again.

    that sounds like a t/o bearing to me.
     
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    It does. Yours is still under warranty, I'd make them fix it. Mine, unfortunately, is not under warranty.
     
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    have you guys tried Sachs clutch kit / TO bearing? Sachs clutch kits are OEM on bmw and porsches... It can't be any worse than stock (from what it sounds like) unless they are the OEM supplyer for toyota.
     
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    I don't know honestly, but thanks for throwing that out there. Maybe someone here knows?
     
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    i did a write up on replacing the stock clutch with a Centerforce Duel-Friction clutch and i bought an aftermarket TOB with it and i will personally 100% say that the TOB is what makes that horrible sound!! As soon as i put the new one in its completely gone! If i crank my truck and turn the AC on, i hear tha compressor turn on with no "diesel" sound, if i listen real close i can hear a sound change when i push in the clutch but otherwise i dont notice it! Def replace your TOB and tha "diesel" sound will go away
     
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    What aftermarket TOB did you install? Was it by Sachs as mentioned previously?
     
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