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Is there any full-size truck other than Tundra that is actually reliable?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TacoManTaco, May 21, 2020.

  1. May 22, 2020 at 6:35 AM
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    Front sight

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    Kinda of like Tacoma’s with their rusty frames and weak leaf springs.
     
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  2. May 22, 2020 at 6:37 AM
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    GMC 1 TON is a hell of a vehicle.
    We have Chevrolet's in the company's fleet and have been extremely reliable. Buy a Donkey if you want something to last. DONKIES!

    brummiedonkeys.jpg
     
  3. May 22, 2020 at 6:40 AM
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    Havent heard anything about that but Hyundai is giving them a Ridgeline competitor.
     
  4. May 22, 2020 at 6:54 AM
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    But at least an effort was made to rectify...credit where credit is due...
     
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  5. May 22, 2020 at 7:01 AM
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  6. May 22, 2020 at 7:02 AM
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    I wish we could get the affordable. diesel vehicles they have overseas. Trucks, vans, cars, whatever. I’m sure it has something to do with the EPA and DEF bullcrap. I’m not positive but I’m guessing they don’t put a ridiculous up-charge on diesels overseas like they do here
     
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  7. May 22, 2020 at 7:13 AM
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    I've heard of more issues with Nissan than all others. I've driven full size Ford, Chevy, and Dodge trucks since the 1970's and currently have a 2014 F150 in the driveway along with the Tacoma. I also have lots of friends driving Ford/Chevy/Dodge. Reports of problems are overstated. There are some issues, but you only hear the guys who complain. The guys who never have problems and just keep driving are never heard from

    Given reasonable care you can get any of them to 200,000-300,000 miles without any major repairs. I think you'll spend less on minor repairs to get a Tundra to 200,000 miles and if you want to go to 400,000 your odds of doing that with Tundra are better. But any of the domestic trucks aren't all that bad. Certainly better than their cars.

    I have a BIL still driving his 1999 F250 and a friend with a 1997 F150. Both are over 400,000 miles. The F250 has had no major repairs, the engine and transmission on the F150 were rebuilt at about 300,000. Another friend with one of the 1977 4X4 F250 highboys with factory lift is still driving it to work everyday. He bought it the summer after high school graduation.

    I have no scientific proof, but it is my casual observation that domestic 3/4 tons seem to hold up much longer than 1/2 tons. Even those with gas engines. Guys buy 1/2 tons and try to tow and haul too much in them while the guys who buy 3/4 tons rarely exceed the trucks capabilities.

    I think this is also why Tundra's hold up better than most other 1/2 tons. If you look at the specs Tundra only offers engines that have power to spare and mate them with strong 3.90 and 4.30 axles. You have to go up to a 3/4 or 1 ton domestic truck to get that. Most 1/2 ton Chevy's on the road have 3.08 gears in them and 3.43 is about as low as they offer. Ford uses a lot of 3.15 and 3.31 gears in their trucks. Ford does at least offer 3.55 and 3.73 in some models. That combined with smaller less powerful engines mean the trucks are always working harder compared to Tundra. At least that is my theory why Tundra and most 3/4 ton trucks seem to last longer.

    You do pay a fuel mileage penalty with Tundra. It works out to about 7 more gallons for each 1000 miles driven compared to Ford/Chevy/Dodge.

    I'm going to look hard at an F250 with the 6.2 gas engine in it for my next truck. You can get one cheaper than a Tundra or many F150's and get about the same fuel mileage as Tundra. Plus a lot more capability. If I buy one, it'll be the last truck I ever own.
     
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  8. May 22, 2020 at 7:14 AM
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    dated interior / electronic penalty as well
     
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  9. May 22, 2020 at 7:23 AM
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    I have had 2 F-150s with the 3.5 Ecoboost and 2 Ram 1500s that we bought for work trucks. The 17 Ram had nothing but issues. Was in the shop at least 8 times. Had interior leak that they couldn't seem to fix. The air suspension quit twice and the key fob would randomly go undetected and was never fixed. That truck was traded when the rear started making noise for a 20 and it has been good so far. Neither Ford has had issues...mechanically. The 18 had 25k and the 19 is at 35k or so. The 18 was stolen a couple months ago and recovered, but totaled out. Was repainted with rattle cans and full of menthols and stripper clothes. If I bought a full size personally, I would probably buy a Power Wagon. I think Rams have more issues than any other truck out there, but it is a bad ass truck.
     
  10. May 22, 2020 at 7:25 AM
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    Had three Ram Hemi's. Put over 100,000 miles on each of them. No major problems. Bought a 2018 Tacoma because I wanted a smaller truck. Over the years my wife had five Tacoma's...no major problems either. I always maintained that my Rams were as reliable as her Tacoma's.
     
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  11. May 22, 2020 at 8:27 AM
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    Get a Rav4 if your hauling old people around. They are gonna have a hell of a time climbing into a full size rig.
     
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    This is a feature not a bug.
     
  13. May 22, 2020 at 8:38 AM
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    Dads 2014 Raptor was flawless for 85k before he traded it on his 18 which has also been flawless. Buddy’s coyote 2013 has been good too and he has close to 130k on it.
     
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  14. May 22, 2020 at 9:21 AM
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    I have owned 2001 and 2010 5.3L silverado's and started having issues at around 90K miles on both. The 2001 had been worked on quite a bit by the previous owner so I can't blame GM for the issues i had with that truck. I loved my 2010 and took excellent care of it, however at about 150K i began having some serious electrical, engine, and transmission issues and decided to trade it in for a new tacoma. I'm sure i could have fixed my chevy for cheaper than buying a new Tacoma, but i wanted something that was more a little more nimble and got better mileage. My Tacoma now has 30K and it's been great so far, but then again at 30K there shouldn't be any issues.

    I definitely miss my full size though and plan to get one again in 5-10 years while hopefully keeping my Tacoma as well.
     
  15. May 22, 2020 at 9:33 AM
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    The ford 5.0 is a pretty solid engine.
    The 3.5 is a ticking time bomb with the water pump design.


    Dodge electrical gremlins are the most common reason I see them traded in.

    chevys like to drink oil these days, but pretty reliable
     
  16. May 22, 2020 at 9:34 AM
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    I’ve owned full size Fords, Chevy’s, and Rams. Ford makes the better truck hands down. I hope my Tacoma holds up just as much as the 2003 Ford F-150 that I sold before I got my Taco.
     
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    They drink it like its water
     
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  18. May 22, 2020 at 9:48 AM
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    I went through this debate, ended up with a RAM after driving all the big 4. GMC still feels dated inside with all the buttons, Ford is just crazy expensive for what you get. I went with a RAM 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. Solid axles, all the amenities that comes with a Laramie 1 package. 8 speed trans that drives amazing, Tow rating of 16,500lbs and i get 13-16mpg depending on driving habits. Hauls 8k like its nothing, and gets 12mpg. My final decision was between a TRD Pro tundra or this truck, RAM won with lower cost and better towing/comfort. The tundra will hold its value way better, but that wasn't a priority for me.
     
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  19. May 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM
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    And i got a 7 year 100,000 mile BTB warranty for next to nothing. $52k for a loaded and capable truck, 5K cheaper than the 2020 Tundra TRD Pro.
     
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  20. May 22, 2020 at 9:57 AM
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    dont be mistaken they dont sell things for "next to nothing" you end up paying for it one way or another.
     
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