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Is this the future of off road vehicles?

Discussion in 'Kentucky' started by Tantaco37, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:10 AM
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    PackCon

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    No.

    Electric off road vehicle = stupid.

    Also Tesla is barely hanging by the skin of their teeth as a business. Those people that own one are going to be SOL if they close up shop or go bankrupt.

    The money is not in the electric market yet... and my guess is it never will be. I think there are too many less costly more realistic fuel effeciency options.
     
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  2. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:12 AM
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    Your argument is? You do realize that a lot of what you use in your daily life is detremential to the environment one way or another right? Please don’t use the “gas cars cause global warming” argument. Whatever device you’re using (computer, phone, tablet, etc.) is powered by coal powered plant that produces your electricity. Why don’t you stop using electricity? It’s horrible for the environment. Educate yourself first. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
     
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  3. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:18 AM
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    Civilization(insert synonym here) is horrible for the environment.
     
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    Those two statements make me curious... would you mind to elaborate?
     
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    For those who think that 'solar = charging while moving' .. No. Even if the roof was covered, there just isn't enough surface area on a truck to get charging to any significant distance.

    You'll be stationary and have your half acre of panels deployed for a day or two before doing the next leg, assuming you find a charging site with sun.
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:28 AM
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    Wouldn’t it be so much fun to be rock crawling up a hill and your battery dies?
    Most electric vehicles don’t have manual e brakes either.
    You lose everything with the loss of the battery.
    Plus if one of those magnesium batteries ignites... people will likely die. Those things explode.

    Also you’ll burn through the battery quickly on a modified truck. You won’t be able to drive more than 50-100 miles without needing more juice. Not sure solar panels could keep up.
     
  7. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    Teslas are still made in wasteful plants and shipped in on diesel rigs.

    Two things that cause a hundred times the pollution than a daily driver.
     
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    @PackCon

    Did you guys see my original comment?
    About a thing that has already happened?

    Also, as far as electric vehicles are concerned, drive power =/= safety system power, different batteries lol.
    but I do gotta say, some of those statements are a bit fear of the unknown lol...
    ->running out of gas on a hill :help:
    ->gas lights up like a MF
     
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  9. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:44 AM
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    Yes but gas off road vehicles have more manual controls that do not rely on an electrical connection to work.
    Gas does not burn like Magnesium. No where near it. Magnesium will create blinding explosions magnified several times that of gasoline.
    Have you ever lit a tiny strip of Mg on fire in Chem Lab?

    Its not fear of unknown.
    Teslas require recharge every 200ish miles.
    Now make the vehicle Twice as heavy with 35inch tires and armor and gear...
    You litterally would have to camp for 2 days to recharge the battery enough to get another 70 miles down the road.

    Electric vehicles are not the shit everyone thinks they are. They are expensive and impractical on a large scale.
     
  10. Feb 19, 2019 at 7:48 AM
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    Tantaco37 [OP] Yes those are Cheech and Chong yard gnomes!

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    Had these A.R.E. Overland Truck cap, Cover King Tactical seat covers, OME BP-51 full suspension and dakars, SPC adjustable UCA's, Husky Floor Mats, Mobtown Off-road sliders, Cali Raised light bar and ditch lights and bed stiffeners, mobtown off-road front ifs skid, uniden bearcat CB Amd firestick. Now a super fancy stock truck!
    Maybe that’s one thing they would consider putting in the EV’s is a secondary manual braking system. That would be handy. I think solar could work for charging if you don’t drive constantly like for me since I like to go camping a lot. I’d wheel to my campsite and set up and charge it up.

    Also as far as power this thing can haul 5 tons. I don’t know how much extra power it would take to haul that but I’m sure it’s being designed to do so.

    I agree with the battery issue and fires, you cannot put those out unless they are completely submerged. But in all honesty with all the hybrids and the few Tesla EVs out there battery fires are super rare. I do t think it’s of much concern. I think the concept is great and may even be a pocket saver just on fuel costs alone. The 60k price isn’t unreasonable either. Hell you can’t buy a new Chevy 1500 or Ford F-150 for less than that unless u just get the work truck.
     
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    I would agree for the most part, but I’ll take Apple for example. They’re coming to the point where their products are extremely expensive for what they are, that they could potentially see a major downfall unless they change their game. I’m not denying that EV automobiles won’t be the next big thing, it just won’t happen now or in the next 10 years. Too expensive, you don’t get the same range as your normal car, and our current infrastructure I don’t think would be sufficient to power such a population. That’s all a different story though. OP, sorry for the thread jack.
     
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    While I'm sure battery technology will advance to a point where it'll become just as reliable as a traditional engine, I'd rather wait till the tech is perfected before vesting any money on a potential money pit. There's a damn good chance that I'll still be driving my truck 15 years from now, and the only battery I need to worry about changing wont cost me a kidney to replace.
     
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    Yes, please. It will help your argument. And your point is correct, but not broad enough.

    Coal may be a leader, but it's not alone. Oil, natural gas, nuclear and hydro have served well for decades.

    Nuclear is the rock star, but we're too dumb to get past the political issues and figure out how to manage the waste. So instead of moving to energy self sufficiency with new plants, we're shutting down end of life plants.

    Solar. Wind. Bio. Fuel cells. All specialized, in service in small quantities (relative to kW produced).

    An important part of any economy is abundant electric at a reasonable cost.
     
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    Tantaco37 [OP] Yes those are Cheech and Chong yard gnomes!

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    No worries man, I wanted to see what people thought of it. I still think it’s pretty cool. It just shows what’s coming for the future. Maybe not at this moment and age but it’ll happen one day.
     
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    It always looks good on paper, but I want to see it get put to a 50000 mile test.
    Also I see it costing a fortune let alone when something is wrong with it and you have to get it repaired$$$$$$$.
     
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    Are you saying that their panels were roof mounted?

    That's just not possible with physics, dude.

    Max solar radiation is about 1kw square meter, and panels about that size are only about 250w (nameplate) or so. Less when you're off axis, or otherwise not getting direct sun, of course. Even if you were in complete sun, and get a full 8 hours of sunlight in, and could mount 2 panels, that's still only 4kwh/day. The rivian has a 180kWh battery.

    So you're going to need to park it for a day or two for every full charge. Even if you were carrying nothing else but solar panels in your bed.
     
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    All electric won't happen, at least not in my lifetime.
    There are other environmental improvements that can and will be made first such as downscaling coal and replacing it with nuclear power. Also, there won't be regulations requiring electric because it's simply not feasible, hell, look at the diesel guys deleting DPF and DEF because of astronomical upkeep costs, decreased fuel efficiency, and decreased reliability.

    All in all the U.S. is way ahead of other countries when it comes to emissions, you're welcome to improve your emissions all you want but you won't force me into doing it, you'll have better luck trying to force other countries to improve their emissions first.
     
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    2.5 million people work in the solar industry in China, VS 260,000 in the US.
     
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