Just finished toytec ulk

Just finished my toytec ulk with 2 inch add a leaf and light racing uca's and I love it. My stock suspension all the way around was spent. Now it feels so much better. Cornering. Pot holes. Better take off and traction. I'm pumped. I think it's definitely worth it to get the light racing upper control arms to get the alinement just right for a 3 inch lift. Can't be happier with it
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Looks good! Did you do an AAL with old shot rear springs? That's my only concern. But if they had some life left no biggie. Mine were shot and opted for the OME's Enjoy!

 

They were tired but no negative ark. Got 2 inchs from 2" add a leafs it feels like a new truck to me

 

Nice!

 

Are those LR UCA's necessary if you have a diff drop with the 4x4? I wanna do this kit soon bad with my taco but I'm not sure if i need the LR UCAs... the kit comes with a 1" diff drop for the 4x4s

 

Doesn't matter if you have a diff drop or not.

LR UCA are NOT REQUIRED but help get your alignment in spec specifically your caster. I still run stock UCA's with my OME lift.

 

So I need to buy the UCAs even on the billes 5100 kit with the shocks on 0" setting and the eibach 3" springs??
heres what I'm looking to buy btw:
https://bilsteinlifts.com/shop/95-0...table-lift-kit-with-5100-shocks-95-04-tacoma/

 

if so which UCAs would be the best for this kit?

 

No, you do NOT NEED aftermarket UCA's. But eventually I plan on running LR UCA's.

 

Okay, as long as my alignment is in spec and won't get fucked up drifting and driving offroad (not crazy hard) I'm gonna be more than happy with the setup. thank you so much for the quick responses!!! i appreciate it more than you know! ready to pull the trigger on this setup

 

Your caster will probably be out of spec. Mine is, but I haven't noticed a difference driving. I've also gone off road with my setup and stock UCA and had no problems.

 

glad to hear that from someone with a 1st gen v6 4x4 for once. if it ends up being really out of spec after the diff drop then oh well. ill have to dump some money on the fuckin UCAs anyways but id rather not if its not critical

 

The diff drop will have nothing to do with your alignment, it is designed to reduce your CV angles that were increased due to the lift... Your lift is what changes your alignment....

And there is no correlation between aftermarket UCA's and a diff drop(uca's have nothing to due with CV angles). Having one will not necessitate needing the other.

 

So if I install this kit, I will or will not need UCAs to have a good, normal, stable alignment?

 

If you want all of your numbers in allignment then yes, you will need aftermarket UCA.

However, you do not need aftermarket UCA if you are okay with having your caster a bit out of alignment. I have ran with my caster out of allignemt and has to issue with wear on tires or anything.

 

Yeah uca's really are just a personal preference so to speak...but like delta has mentioned if you want your alignment dead nuts super perfect, you'll need the aftermarket uca's. With that said you don't really need the alignment dead nuts perfect to have a safe driveable vehicle. I'd say most guys on here including myself and delta do NOT have uca's with our lifts and we have no I'll effect not running them. But we aren't running a full 3" either, since you're going the full 3" you won't have much travel without the uca's. Sorry to not give you a definitive yes or no on your question. Its just gunna have to be something you'll have to play with and see...if you can afford it it wouldn't be a bad idea to get them with a full 3" lift.

On your avatar pic it looks like you're already lifted anyway, are you? If that's the case you been driving around lifted without uca's anyway and I'm sure it drives just fine. I don't mean to make it sound like you don't know your own vehicle it just looks like in that pic you're already lifted a bit.

 

Oh I am but that's just a 2" pro comp spacer haha I'm gonna rip that shit out and drop in some real coilovers

I'm debating between either the 5100/eibach 3" lift or the OME 883 lift that claims 3" as well. I mean I have that bumper in the front and a v6 and don't want sag, but I'm looking at both complete kits including the front/rear shocks, coils, and AALs. Price isn't a huge deal considering the Bilstein/Eibach is $600 and the OME like $730. I'd love to just get the truck sitting at a 3" lift and get the smoother ride. I know it's a lot to expect on a 1st gen with a low budget but icons/kings/foxs are all out of my price range. I assume those 883 coils will bring me up to around 3" like the description says, but now I'm just looking to see what the smoother OFFROAD ride is. What setup would take rough sandy washboard trails better between the two.... I live by a lake with piece of shit torn up trails and my stock suspension just isn't doing it for me. If anyone has an answer on which of the two kits is a SMOOTHER OFFROAD ride that'd be great. I appreciate all the feedback btw!!! trying to pick up on suspension advice as much as possible before I drop money on it

 

Looks like you have a tube bumper. If you went with OME I would recommend the 882 over the 883 coil. I have no experience with the bilstein 5100 but my OME with 883 is nice off and on road.

 

Can you get going moderately fast offroad on rough trails? I'm very disappointed with the stock TRD bilstein "4600" fakes. I don't know what they did to the toyota ones in terms of valving but if I do more than 5mph on relatively flat dirt/sand my interior just smacks and bashes like no other... Makes me wince every time it seems like every other truck is smoother. I Havent played with suspension kits much given I spent all my money on different Mods, but your saying the 882s are better? I know they're taller but what will that buy me/make worse in terms of lift/ride quality?

 

Ive been on some washboard trails and its definitely not a "smooth" ride but it doesn't feel terrible.

I say the 882 coils because.....

883 coils have a higher spring rate than the 881 but are the same height as the 881 coils. 882 coils are 10mm higher than the 881 coils but have the same spring rate. With your tube bumper (which is a lot lighter than a plate bumper) , you would get a smoother ride with the 882 coils over the stiffer 883 coils.