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Just might be getting a Tacoma...again

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by gupster88, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. Mar 29, 2012 at 12:00 PM
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    ok guys so i've spent the past couple weeks researching a lot and looking at some trucks on the lots. here is what i have narrowed it down to...

    definitely going with the base model access cab. i would still like to go with the 2.7 however i am still curious as to how it would handle towing ~2100-2200lbs locally about once a week or so. also, if i do choose the 2.7, do i go with the 5 spd manual or the 4 spd auto? the 4.0 has come into consideration but i am still trying to maximize mpg while maintaining a truck that can pull my Rzr + 6x12 trailer.

    to mix things up, my granpa can get me a helluva deal on any GM vehicle with his retiree discount. I've been looking at the 3.7 colorados. they of course tow more, but their overall mpg seems to be about that of a 4.0 so i am still in the air about that.

    any input from y'all on what my finall cut has been?
     
  2. Mar 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM
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    Access cabs are perfect, only time you need a double cab is to haul people, and I never do any of that, I like having the extra room behind the seat to store valuables and keep them locked. The 2.7 does fine with towing too, I just got done towing 2580lbs to Nevada and back over spring break with no complaints. Given you wont be going very fast and will rarely be in 5th gear, but you don't need to haul ass when towing anyway for that matter!
     
  3. Mar 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM
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    Get the manual for towing, and stay away from Colorados, will save lots of money in the long run getting a Tacoma! Mine had no trouble towing 2580lbs, getting heavier springs in the back really helps too for tongue weight.
     
  4. Mar 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM
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    No one has mentioned engine braking, an advantage of the manual. It will help on the down hill to slow some without frying the brakes, especially long grades. Automatics are getting better but sticks still edge them out in mileage, especially in town. The one time an auto may be better is when the final drive is taller than its manual counter part; this would result in better highway mileage. If the Tacoma had a 6 or 7 speed auto to help maximize the weaker 2.7 4 then it would be a tougher decision. But a 4 speed?
    something else to consider is whether you busy yourself with other tasks while driving. Its quite difficult to juggle the radio, cell phone, cheeseburger, big gulp and stick-- exacerbating this is that you can't maintain directional controll with the top of your knee on the wheel when working the clutch--
    Off road creepin is much easier with an auto...
    Oh, and referencing your mention of the regular cab: you'll be able to maneuver in parking lots and maybe even make some u-turns.
     
  5. Mar 30, 2012 at 4:18 AM
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    access cab is my first pick. i really like the regular cab but i know i'll regret it once i own it. i am thinking the 2.7L would do fine towing, i don't tow any steep grades or anything like on the the Turnpike. just moderate hills around the rural part of Charleston. i am in no hurry to get where i am going. worst case is i am the butt of some jokes with my buddies. one owns a 2500 cummins and the other owns a 5.3 silverado. :rolleyes:

    i agree about everything with the manual. i'll be able to control the rpms and shift points when towing. i won't be off road creeping much in it, maybe a gravel road to get to a trail but that is it. as for the other tasks while driving, maybe a manual will deter me from my bad habit...texting while driving :cool:
     
  6. Mar 30, 2012 at 7:06 AM
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    Yep, the manual is the best anti texting and driving device there is! :burnrubber:
     
  7. Mar 30, 2012 at 8:52 AM
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    OP do yourself a favor and don't get the 4 spd automatic transmission. Its pretty slow and get worse Mpg's than the manual. I have no complaints with the 5-speed manual, can drive it fast if the need arises. Some people claim the 5- speed manual feels "clunky" but it shifts real nice once you figure out the optimum technique. Coming from a 4.0 l Tacoma, no complaints here on lack of power for the 2.7L . It's a truck not a race car!
     
  8. Apr 2, 2012 at 7:13 AM
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    I did it again. Got tired of paying truck payments and gas and traded in for a 2015 Honda Accord Sport since I enjoyed my 2013 Sport so much.
    Let us know how it goes.

    I've been thinking about trading in my CRV for a new 4x4 Tacoma 2.7L auto.

    I figure if I can live with a vehicle being a bit slower, the CRV, then I might as well get a vehicle that looks more aggressive and sits higher up, 2.7L Taco.
     
  9. Apr 2, 2012 at 7:17 AM
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  10. Apr 4, 2012 at 5:47 AM
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    I have 4cyl manual access cab. 18 to 29 mpg according to how careful I am. Egg between my boot and the accelerator or not.
     
  11. Apr 4, 2012 at 6:34 AM
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    That part is false, but I still suggest the MT as well.
     
  12. Apr 5, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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    Did you post this on accident or mean something else?
     
  13. Apr 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM
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    AT=Better MPG
    But I still vote for a MT because it is more fun. :D
     
  14. Apr 5, 2012 at 10:53 AM
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    FALSE; MT does get get better MPG's than Auto for the 2.7L , on the 4.0L V6 the Auto gets better Mpg's. research it for yourself right here, http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Tacoma.shtml

    AT 2.7 L = 21/24 MPG
    MT 2.7L =22/25 MPG
     
  15. Apr 5, 2012 at 11:08 AM
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    EDIT to simplify (from your referenced source):


    4x4:
    AT 2.7 L = 18/21 MPG
    MT 2.7L =18/20 MPG
     
  16. Apr 5, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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    BTW, OP wants 4X4
     
  17. Apr 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM
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    Gotcha, I was thinking 4x2, 4x4 is geared differently. I still would get a manual if i were you op, much funner to drive! I'll never go back to an automatic.
     
  18. Apr 6, 2012 at 12:15 AM
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    Have you test driven any of them, OP? 159hp isn't much for towing 2200lbs in the WV mountains. It's definitely doable, but you'll be spending a lot of time (and fuel) in 3rd and 4th gears.
     
  19. Apr 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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    Go to fueleconomy.gov or fuelly.com and look at owners' actual mileages. Manuals win at the pump.
    The manufacturer is reporting a better mileage here--
    Its possible (can't verify) that the final drive gearing is slightly taller in that dinosaur 4 speed auto, so during a steady 55mph stroll on a flat highway slightly less fuel would be used.

    It should be noted that promoting the auto benefits the manufacturer: higher profit margin.
     
  20. Apr 7, 2012 at 6:33 AM
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    Guys, I'm on my 4th manual transmission over the years. I love driving a stick, and I'm not arguing against it...I'm just saying don't buy it expecting to get better MPG (or at least exboritantly better MPG) than an AT. In the past, that was true; not so much anymore.

    My 2.7 MT is wound tight as HELL when cruising at 65 to 75 MPH. But I still love it...
     
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