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King Shock PRICE INCREASE

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Falcon016, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. Apr 12, 2018 at 7:34 AM
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    Agreed...and Digressive shocks improve handling while tradeoff on big bump reaction time. Search the web.

    I personally prefer digressive simply because I put a lot more miles getting to my off roading, than being off road and just love the handling performance improvements (cornering)...please note, being my 3rd lift in life these are all very (dare I shout VERY) individually personal decisions...find a buddy with one of each and go dive them. Couple cases of beer and gas tank fills are worth getting it right. Lastly, since your spending Big Bucks...frankly they both are awesome! Good luck!
     
  2. Apr 12, 2018 at 7:41 AM
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    To clarify. Speed = suspension travel velocity. Per given bump this is proportional to vehicle speed, but is also affected by the nature of the bump itself. i.e. Hitting railroad tracks vs a whoop in the road.
     
  3. Apr 12, 2018 at 9:49 AM
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  4. Apr 12, 2018 at 9:57 AM
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    Digressive is overrated imo. It makes more sense on a rally car than a long travel truck in my opinion. It's not like the linear setups are swaying all over the place on road either. My linear Kings sway significantly less than the stock digressive Bilsteins did so a lot more comes into play than just the damping profile.

    Also, one thing a lot of people mistakenly say about digressive is that they "get softer at high speeds"...in laymans terms, yeah kind of but that's not really what's happening. It's more the slope of increased resistance plateaus at medium to high speed. This can feel like they get softer because you more or less have the same resistance on a medium bump as a large bump so the large bump will compress faster and feel softer. The resistance slope never dips back the other direction though even in a digressive profile so as speed increases resistance will still be increasing, just at a much slower rate than linear.

    Linear on the other hand is much more traditional and perhaps what you would expect out of a shock. It's soft at low speeds and stiffens up at high speeds. It's the "common-sense" implementation for a shock in most cases, in my opinion. Digressive certainly has its place but it's not what I prefer. I think the lower end stock Bilsteins use it because it's a nifty way to have small, low volume, weak shocks provide reasonable stability on road while also being soft off-road. Fair enough. Icon's on the other hand, in my opinion, are only for people who just prefer the stiffer low speed damping (I don't on the Tacoma platform) or in an application where you specifically need stiff low speed damping. Rally cars are a good example of this. It's no secret that stiffer damping on a relatively flat surface is far superior for handling. And by handling I mean cornering at high speeds. With digressive you get that on the relatively flat sections while also having it be able to soak up the big bumps. So, if you are racing your Tacoma rally style, as in taking turns at speed while also hitting big bumps/jumps, then yeah get Icons, they'll be better. If you like to race your Tacoma around on the streets and take turns fast, consider Icons. The Tacoma is an odd platform for that style of driving though, in my opinion.

    Digressive-Linear-Progressive-Damping-Curve-Comparison-768x385.jpg


    http://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/digressive-vs-linear-vs-progressive-pistons-shock-valving/
     
  5. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:07 AM
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    ZYBORG Let's roll...

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    Sounds like a filthy tactic to increase revenue.
     
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  6. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:10 AM
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    Someone call king to confirm lol
     
  7. Apr 30, 2018 at 10:43 AM
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    This is indeed true goes in to effect tomorrow.
     

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