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Laptop or Desktop for gaming.....what do I need?

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Warputer, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. Nov 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM
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    Warputer

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    My teenager wants a Laptop or Desktop for games like World of Warcraft or Skyrim. On a limited budget ( hoping for $500 to $600) what do I need to look for with Ram, video/sound cards, memory etc?????

    He says I won't find anything in this range......is he right?
     
  2. Nov 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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    A little lift & some extra steel....
    Oh yeah....he mentioned something about an I5 processor.....:facepalm:
     
  3. Nov 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM
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  4. Nov 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM
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  5. Nov 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM
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    Damn......so these games cannot be played on crap you buy from Best Buy or Walmart? :confused:
     
  6. Nov 20, 2012 at 6:25 PM
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    you could probably find something on tigerdirect, ...esp. w/ the black friday deals they've got going..
     
  7. Nov 20, 2012 at 6:28 PM
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    They could but not for 500 bucks.
     
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    build a custom desktop and buy a 32inch monitore trust me its badass as all get out plus you customize the way you want and it wont come with all the preloaded bullshit
     
  9. Nov 20, 2012 at 6:29 PM
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    but yea to your question if going with a store bought system your not going to find anything that can run games such as those for under that price range
     
  10. Nov 21, 2012 at 2:31 AM
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    Believe so. Double your budget & your in the ballpark.

    I have to 2 gaming laptops both cost in excess of $1,200.

    My current was around $1300ish?

    Here is some what idea of prices for gaming laptops.

    Of course you'll pay more for ram,grafix card etc etct etc...


    power notebookes.com

    bestbuy.com

    xoticpc.com
     
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    Desktop would be better for gaming. I say this because you can upgrade the components inside as needed as games get more demanding. Depending on the gaming he wants to do, a decent CPU + GPU combo would be your budget right there. I don't think WoW and Skyrim are that demanding on GPU power though.

    A decent combo might be this:
    Intel Core i5-2500K Quad-Core, MSI P67A-GD80 (B3) P67 Motherboard, G.Skill DDR3 8GB Memory, Seagate 1.5TB HDD, Rosewill Gaming ATX Mid Tower Case w/650W PSU SuperCombo $478.99

    EVGA 01G-P3-1561-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $219.99

    A little over budget at $700, but not a bad place to start.
     
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    Thanks for all the input guys.:cool: At least I have an idea of what he's going to need.
     
  14. Nov 21, 2012 at 6:19 AM
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    I don't mean to high jack your thread OP.

    What kind of computer do i need if I want to play strategy games like Starcraft II?
     
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    OP, the first thing I would put in perspective is that you have placed a price. $600 for a toy. That's a very generous donation. As a parent, your focus is on education and their personal improvement, with fun where it can be had.
    If your teenager wants more, let them earn it. It's much like their first car - you want it reliable and able to get them to work and home. Let them add the extras for fun.

    That said, let's put your donation to good educational use, and let the teen build the extras:

    first, start with a desktop. This is still the cheapest, most powerful option. My 5-year-old desktop still tromps my 1-year-old notebook. My notebook cost over $1.2k and can eat its 8-cell battery in under 20 minutes if I push on it.

    I would build my donation based on what it would take to build a basic machine, with a bit extra just to keep it reliable. Hop on newegg and start adding the following to your cart:

    -Motherboard. Find an Intel board. They are typically rock solid and sometimes even high end.
    -Processor (an i3 processor will be fine for most school tasks unless they are have expressed interest in graphics, software, or engineering)
    -RAM (I've been out of the game on this, but i assume 8GB is fine)
    -Operating System and Microsoft Office. Buy this through the school at a HEFTY discount.
    -Hard drive. I get by with 500GB just fine, but it's your call. New Dells ship with 1TB. SSD drives are nice to haves.
    -Really good budget cases can be had for $50 - $80. Some of the ones I bought were more of a joy than my big spendy cases.
    -If the motherboard doesn't have on-board video, then look for a simple ATI or nVidia PCI 3.0 video card. HIS, eVGA, XFX, ATI, MSI are excellent choices. A good budget brand is Sapphire.
    -Power Supply (you can use the calculator on newegg.com to figure out how big, but you may want to keep ~400W as a minimum). A good choice is Antec as a baseline.

    Also if you have any tech savvy-ness (or a friend), I recommend having the teen put it together. It is an excellent learning experience and can open up a lot of great summer jobs that pay handsomely.

    I was able to create a reliable machine that cost $533 (before software) on Newegg just now. The teen would need to put more money into the power supply and get a dedicated video card, possibly more CPU, but otherwise I've provided them with a healthy amount of the computer.
     
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    Desktops will always offer better specs for the price. Two things to note: PC's with dedicated video cards will almost always out perform those of shared or integrated cards. A minimum of 1Gb of VRAM is required for "decent" graphics.
    GPU is more important that CPU. Game performance almost always bottle-necks on graphics (GPU and/or VRAM).
     
  19. Dec 7, 2012 at 7:37 AM
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    Granted that is without a monitor/mouse/keyboard but it lists components and what you can expect performance wise from a $500 machine if you're willing to build it yourself which is not too terribly difficult.

    Also, this does not figure in the price of an operating system which is something you need to consider when building a system yourself.
     
  20. Dec 7, 2012 at 7:51 AM
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    SCII has some great graphic capability. And given its heavy RTS nature, it IS very demanding on GPU and the computer as a whole if you want to get out how the game is supposed to be played and seen. A good internet connection is also buku important for 1v1 - 4v4 matches.

    I play SCII on a 3 year old laptop (specs below) and have my settings on medium or low. I tried high but it's too much. Ultra, or whatever the top teir is, forget about it.

    AMD Phenom™ II Triple-Core Processor N830
    Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    17.3" HD Widescreen Ultrabright™ LCD Display
    4096MB DDR3 Dual-Channel 1066MHz Memory
    ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650 Graphics
    500GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive

    But even at those settings, SCII looks great. If you do get a laptop do yourself a favor and get one of THESE and you'll also want a good mouse you can macro, like THIS.
     
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