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LCA Angles

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TacoLife08, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM
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    TacoLife08

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    Im currently running about 3.75" of lift in the front on 285/75r/16's and my tires (ground side) sit a bit inward obviously creating uneven wear on my tires. Is there anything I can do to correct this aside from lowering the truck??
     
  2. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:12 PM
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    Wellllll here's the thing lol. When I had my initial 3" lift installed I did not realize the rear would be raised 3" as well and maintain the same rake I set out to get rid of. Sooooo I did what I see a lot of other people advise against and added a 1/2" toytec top plate spacer to even it out (at the advice of the mechanic who assured a "top plate spacer" would not effect the suspension travel) but I'm still running the stock bilsteins that came with the OR Package. And id rather saw my own arm off rather than "lower" my truck
     
  3. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:18 PM
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    Meh....

    The spacer won't impact travel, but since it moves the LCA away from the bump stop, it allows for upward travel to exceed the travel permitted by the shock, which can and will result in a broken lower shock mount if you bottom the suspension hard UNLESS you find a way to space out the snubber to limit upward travel.


    On the alignment issues, pure and simple, you are running too much lift for the stock parts. You need a new UCA to bring your geometry back into a range that can be properly aligned.
     
  4. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:19 PM
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    dude you are not supposed to go over 3" ...thats your problem
     
  5. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:31 PM
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    From what I understand you have positive camber. If this is the case you have to buy upper control arms then get an alignment. I just got an alignment today (3" lift) and the tech told me I was maxed out and barely got the suspension into spec. I'm still gonna buy upper control arms because I need them to complete my mid travel setup up front.
     
  6. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:43 PM
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    I brought up the idea of new UCA's given the increase in lift and he said since I don't rock crawl/xtreme off road that it's not necessary to replace the UCA's however he didn't advise against it either. What's strange to me is that the alignment is as perfect as the stock setup and how would the inward angle of the tires change by getting an alignment (these are not contradictions, just lack of knowledge, everything I've learned thus far is from these forums).
     
  7. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM
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    if your tires are like this \ / you have positive camber and thats a wear alignment angle. Meaning your tires will suffer.

    If the alignment was perfect your tires would look like this | | with camber being nearly 0* on both sides.


    There will not be enough adjustment in the LCA cams to bring your camber down and keep your caster in spec. You'll need UCAs.
     
  8. Apr 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM
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    Alignment doesn't just make the truck drive straight but also the camber off the tires
     
  9. Apr 14, 2012 at 4:12 PM
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    Alright ive heard it enough times now lol. Time too add UCA's to the wish list! thanks guys!!!
     
  10. Apr 14, 2012 at 4:13 PM
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    time to get spindles and ditch the lame spacers....
     
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    That too.
     
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    Ditch whoever the hell your talking to also that is telling you your fine.. He obviously doesn't know anything about your truck or lifting them.
     
  14. Apr 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM
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    Not to thread jack, but can someone post pictures of the camber bolts to see what the stock angles are set at?
     
  15. Apr 14, 2012 at 8:34 PM
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    I will post pics tmrw, not currently at home, it's not that bad I was just hoping there was a way I could make it perfect. I'm very meticulous with my taco :/
     
  16. Apr 16, 2012 at 8:07 PM
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    with camburgs 4" spindles will my alignment be perfect without replacing any stock suspension compenents?? cause im not buying spindles if i have to buy UCA's too
     
  17. Apr 16, 2012 at 8:58 PM
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    Your shocks are pretty much maxed out, your ball joints, tire rod should be oozing grease or are already ripped due to the angle of the lift. And if your a 4wd your cv axles boots are going to, or have already ripped causing sand,dirt, grim to ruin the axles. You would be better off ether 1) getting 4wd lift spindles, which to my knowledge only come in the LT kits (if your 4wd), 2nd option if your 2wd (prerunner) get spindles, and UCA's. I hear Maxtrac have some for a fair price. 3rd option is if your 4wd you can do a drop bracket to keep 4wd or do the same for prerunner, but it's retarded if your 2wd to do a drop bracket.

    Just noticed inf your sig you state prerunner
     
  18. Apr 16, 2012 at 9:03 PM
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    05sctaco nailed it.

    You wanna play ya gotta pay.
    Messing with the suspension geometry is not something you can just dive into with a couple of cheap... or one expensive... bolt-on parts.
    It has to be thought out and built properly for it to be safe and to hold up.
     
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