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Leafs VS Coils

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by batacoma, May 20, 2023.

  1. May 20, 2023 at 6:24 AM
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    Which Tacoma rear suspension is the better choice and why? Since the 4th gen offers both.

    Leafs for payload and coils for articulation and comfort.
     
  2. May 20, 2023 at 6:26 AM
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    You said it yourself
     
  3. May 20, 2023 at 7:31 AM
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    That's what I would consider when choosing which Tacoma to purchase. Comfort really isn't a factor in my decision making. The articulation from the coil spring is appealing, but I'd probably go for the more capable payload. I'm probably split 50/50 on payload and offroad capabilities as I don't need one over the other more.

    Looking at the new Ranger I'd go Raptor for the rear coil setup, and I like the look of the Raptor compared to the other trims. Which I don't care for since Ford discontinued the Super Cab configuration.

    Looking at the new Tacoma I'd go Extra Cab just because I prefer that configuration, and will be leaf sprung only, that should also provide the most payload. I do like the Trail Hunter long bed not need a truck with rear coils but I could have fun with it. I don't think I'd go Pro, not a bad looking truck. I prefer the TH look over the Pro, I like the Raptor over the Pro, and the TH over the Raptor. The Extra Cab would probably win out over all of them, I'd have to see one 1st and depending on pricing the Frontier could be my choice.
     
  4. May 20, 2023 at 7:54 AM
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    I am just hoping that the leafs are available with 4WD. It is a SUA setup which in the past meant 2WD only for Tacoma's. What implications does an SUA setup have for articulation, ride comfort, and hauling?
     
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  5. May 20, 2023 at 8:02 AM
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    1st I heard it was SUA maybe it will be 2wd only. The Extra Cab is rear leaf only, and there is supposed to be a Prerunner Rwd Extra Cab. There was some speculation based on ride height that the Extra Cab silhouette teaser was Rwd. That would be lame if Toyota does not offer a 4wd Extra Cab, or no 4wd option on leaf sprung models.
     
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    Here is an image of the SUA setup on a TRD PreRunner. I agree it would suck if no 4WD was offered on the XtraCab!

    2024_Toyota_Tacoma_TRD_PreRunner_014.jpg
     
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  7. May 20, 2023 at 8:27 AM
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    I heard they’re doing away with the extended cab doors opening. Talk about taking 2 steps back. That is some 90s dodge shit
     
  8. May 20, 2023 at 8:56 AM
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    I'd just get a cap with some windoors and an interior shelf. There's always the Double Cab if you must have rear doors. I just don't want to buy a Trail Hunter with an MSRP of around $70k to get 4wd and a long bed, it's got to be close to F-150 Tremor pricing.
     
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    I'm not familiar with the multi link setup but don't they have a panhard rod in the back to keep the axle from shifting side to side? I remember the early 90s Toyota having solid beam rear ends on their cars and when going over bumps the panhard rod made the rear push outward on one side. If that's the same herez there's going to be at least a few 4th geners rolling one side of their rear fenders

    Edit: "trackbar" https://2021.help.altair.com/2021/hwdesktop/mv/topics/motionview/rear_linked_solid_axle_r.htm
     
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  10. May 22, 2023 at 3:51 AM
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    Trail Punter linked solid axel. ...Is it weird that I prefer leafs?

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  11. May 22, 2023 at 5:29 AM
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    I have a topper with windoors, it is a bit of a pain to use over the clamshell doors on the cab. Has two locked latches, always seem to get my fingers caught in them while opening it. On the cab just hit the fob to unlock, easy peezy to get in and out.

    Fairly certain we’ll be able to get the SR5 DCLB in 4WD. Still looking at $45-50K OTD. At that point might as well get a 1/2 Ton. Rear passenger room is darn near the same size on the DC Tundra and the DC Tacoma. Get a half foot longer bed, more powerful engine, better capacities. Sure it has a face only a mother can love, but everything is ugly these days.

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    Fullsize makes more sense at that price point. Sometimes midsize is the only option for some people.
     
  14. May 22, 2023 at 6:42 AM
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    Since Toyota did away with the AC, ‘24 Tacoma is dead to me. Full-size is next truck after I use up my 3rd Gen.

    Good thing I live in Idaho, could get away with one of these. Blows the price point out of the water though.

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    Are we sure the payload ratings are different? I haven't seen those numbers broken down by model.
    If the coil springs are rated for the same weight, I don't see why you would get leaf springs unless you're trying to save money.
     
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    Can bigger coils simply boost payload? How about Airbags? I'll be looking to replace my taco in about 2 years. Love the tacoma reliability but needs to do what I need it to, which is a lot of high speed forestry roads, lots of washboard/potholes with cargo payload of about 1000 lbs. Looking foreword to the final specs and aftermarket options.
     
  17. May 22, 2023 at 8:18 AM
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    Saw a couple Tundra’s on my breakfast burrito run. They aren’t that much bigger than a Taco. Looked up the wheelbase on the DC6.5’ bed on the Tundra, it is 145”. Current Tacoma DCLB is 140”, ‘24 is even more, can’t find the specs, but didn’t they stretch it by 3-4”? So splitting hairs really.
     
  18. May 22, 2023 at 8:30 AM
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    Type 3 wildland chasis should make for a good base for a pick up truck build.

    Usually leaves have a higher payload rating than coils. Both can be configured to carry heavier loads you will almost exclusively see leavs on trucks designed to carry more weight, and those packs have substantially more leaves in them.

    Not sure how that carries over to the Tacoma. I'm almost certain F-150 Raptor has the lowest load rating of all F-150 configurations.

    What's the reasoning for the different springs on the Tacoma? Costs should be reflected in Toyota's MSRP, but if the leaf sprung truck can only carry the same payload as the coil sprung truck. Comfort and articulation wouldn't be worth the added cost. The cost savings of the leaf sprung truck wouldn't be worth it, if more payload isn't another benefit of the leaves.
    IDK I'm wondering why Toyota has both options available, if one option is better than the other. Are they just testing for the future 4R? This platform is new and it's probably more cost effective to engineer both now instead of later.

    I think all Xtra Cabs get leaf springs and all Double Cabs get the 4link.

    I wonder what new Hilux will get? Leaves seem the obvious choice as those markets see a lot more heavy use from the platforn, but the OR market is pretty big with plentty of cross over from both.
     
  19. May 22, 2023 at 9:10 AM
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    Yeah it would, I drive past the Freightliner dealer here every now and then. Usually have a bunch of those sitting out waiting to get outfitted. Where the picture is from, decided to swing by and get a closer look see.

    SR DCSB gets leafs. Can kinda see them on the pic, why the SR won’t have the DCLB option, guessing it shares the same chassis as the Xtra Cab.

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    There's already rust in a few spots and the thing isn't even out yet......:frusty:
     
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