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Led light conversion

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Jp Sturm, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. Nov 12, 2017 at 4:14 PM
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    Today I tried to convert my old sealed beam lights to led... It didn't go as planned. When I switched my lows on, the high beams on the leds would switch on, and when I turned the brights on, the leds went off.. no matter how many times I switched the 3 prong wires I couldn't seem to get the leads to work properly.. Any suggestions??
     
  2. Nov 12, 2017 at 4:17 PM
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    I've read that when you do the hella 200 mm swap that you put another harness on that has a resistor or relay. Maybe you need a similar harness
     
  3. Nov 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM
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    That might be it, because i could only get the high or lows to work, not both. Thanks ☺
     
  4. Nov 12, 2017 at 9:01 PM
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    You should not run LEDs in a reflector unless you have done a full projector retrofit. Read why:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-leds-should-not-be-run-in-halogen-reflectors.454371/
     
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  5. Nov 13, 2017 at 7:11 AM
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    I didn't exactly do that, I bought a light with multiple leds instead of a single led in a reflector. I'll upload a picture here in awhile.
     
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  6. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:17 AM
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    Anything like what I tried in this thread? You won't be able to get the high beams to switch on from the stock switch. Best solution is @crashnburn80's ultimate headlight upgrade. I'm waiting on my replacement E-code housings now, Amazon fucked up my delivery over the weekend. Then after next paycheck I'll be ordering the upgraded harness and bulbs.
     
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    If they are a wall of LEDs in the shape of a headlight that look similar to a light bar, return them. They are not suitable for street use and will not have a controlled beam pattern. Your issue getting them to work is likely related to the Gen 1 Tacoma’s ground switched wiring.

    If they cost $200+ and have a LEDs in an LED reflector housing that kindoff looks like a normal headlight or LED low beams in a projector they are likely ok.

    E-codes paired with that upgrade is going to be awesome.
     
  8. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:51 AM
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    I agree those led ecodes really just blind everybody you're bearing down on.

    I did the ultimate headlight upgrade mod w/80/85 watt headlights and it has a 100% increase in light quality with just the stock 55/65 stock bulbs.
     
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  9. Nov 13, 2017 at 11:22 AM
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    Thanks! :) maybe I'll just use normal sealed beam headlights instead of leds, I'm sure whatever I replace my old lights with will be an upgrade!!
     
  10. Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM
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    I'll look into that, I might just return them and look for and led strip instead.. I could wire that to a switch and only use it for off roading (not highway use) :)
     
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    Yes, those are the ones I mentioned above that should be avoided.
     
  13. Nov 14, 2017 at 5:32 PM
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    Thanks, I will not be using these :)
     
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    Good call. :)
     
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    You have to wire in relays to make them work properly. I just installed these on my 95 and they are a nice upgrade and have not had the first car flash me. I highly recommend them. Don’t think they are actually legal but no problems with them here yet.
     
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  16. Nov 16, 2017 at 8:06 PM
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    Not being flashed is not a good indicator of beam control, try posting some wall shots. Compare the upgraded halogens vs stock compared to LEDs vs halogen wall shot pictures in this thread:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-leds-should-not-be-run-in-halogen-reflectors.454371/

    I'd put money on the 200mm LED 'conversion' lights not having a clean flat cut off like the photos in the above thread.
     
  17. Nov 16, 2017 at 9:56 PM
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    Maybe so but light output is incredible with these lights, install them you won’t be disappointed . I run all hid kits in all of my trucks and these are just as good as the set of hid in my f250 . For the money and light output you can’t beat them.
     
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    9BC8D6F7-D9EC-4574-B3CD-4B2AB3E0A4E1.jpg My light bar is on too but just giving you an idea
     
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    Are you for real man? They look like rectangular light bars for crying out loud! You can't seriously believe the beam pattern should in any way shape or form be run on the street?

    HIDs are another can of worms. Yes, you probably won't be pulled over for HIDs these days. Cops have bigger fish to fry, and they are used to seeing so many of them. But they are, nonetheless, at the very least poor practice, if not outright dangerous/illegal.

    I believe you when you say light output is "incredible", but not for other motorists. Do what @crashnburn80 suggested and point them 5-10ft away from a wall. You should be able to visibly see a cutoff line. This will tell you if you are blinding other motorists or not. By bet would be no cutoff.

    Based on this, identical amount of glare from "illegal for street use" light bar and "incredible" headlights.

    Don't get me wrong, I have $1500 worth of lights bolted to my rig, but my headlights are 100% stock and will stay that way. Off-road lights are awesome, but don't substitute proper light engineering for a light "upgrade".
     
  20. Nov 16, 2017 at 10:36 PM
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    Yeah, the light bar has no controlled beam, just like those headlights. Which is exactly how I said they would be.

    Clearly you did not read the thread I linked earlier, or don't understand the concept of cut off:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-leds-should-not-be-run-in-halogen-reflectors.454371/

    Those lights are beyond awful.

    I don't even believe that. I believe the glare is incredible, and many confuse glare with output.

    Rather than 5-10ft, do a standard 20-25ft wall shot which is the distance you should use for headlight aiming.
     

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